Left wing hatchet job on Rand Paul

NoDrama

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Although I am pro choice regarding vaccinations, herd immunity comes into play.
Therein lies the rub.

Why a few unvaccinated children are an even bigger threat than you think
Anti-vaccine families tend to cluster together, making outbreaks more likely.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/02/03/why-a-few-unvaccinated-children-are-an-even-bigger-threat-than-you-think/
One of the statements made by the assistant Professor was "So transmissible in fact that 90 percent to 95 percent of people must be vaccinated in order to protect the entire population, or achieve what is called herd immunity."

wouldn't the people who won't take the measles shot fall into the 5-10% of the population?


Does anyone ever wonder if the CDC was being used by politicians to dole out favors to the pharmaceutical companies who provide large campaign donations?
 

desert dude

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One of the statements made by the assistant Professor was "So transmissible in fact that 90 percent to 95 percent of people must be vaccinated in order to protect the entire population, or achieve what is called herd immunity."

wouldn't the people who won't take the measles shot fall into the 5-10% of the population?


Does anyone ever wonder if the CDC was being used by politicians to dole out favors to the pharmaceutical companies who provide large campaign donations?
There are areas in LA and Marin county where the unvaccinated rate is about 20%.
 

UncleBuck

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That's the part I think people are neglecting. If I immunized my children, why should it matter to them if you didn't immunize yours?
as a (supposed) medical professional, you should know that not all kids can be immunized.

or are you lying about that as well? because you don't seem to have jack shit for medical knowledge.
 

UncleBuck

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It's outbreaks among people who made a choice, but apparently the wrong choice. Seems like those people experienced consequences to their choices and the rest of us got to learn from it (as well as them). win win?
except for the immuno-deficient kids who die because of these people.

but i forgot, you don't care about dead kids.
 

UncleBuck

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One of the statements made by the assistant Professor was "So transmissible in fact that 90 percent to 95 percent of people must be vaccinated in order to protect the entire population, or achieve what is called herd immunity."

wouldn't the people who won't take the measles shot fall into the 5-10% of the population?


Does anyone ever wonder if the CDC was being used by politicians to dole out favors to the pharmaceutical companies who provide large campaign donations?
yep, vaccines are a conspiracy just like global warming.

you are so fucking smart.
 

Jimdamick

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Read the article, then watch the video. RP was arguing that vaccination should be a choice, a very libertarian position. The article does its damnedest to paint as RP as an anti-vaxer, though.

For the record, I think vaccinations against communicable diseases should be required for children to attend public and private schools. Many Libertarians will hang my effigy over this. I never claimed to be a "pure" libertarian.

The fucking discussion started over the topic of mandatory vaccinations. Paul, stupidly, threw in a comment about kids being mentally disabled after vaccinations, though he did not say vaccines were the cause.

Left-wing media outlets are now lumping Paul in with Jenny McCarthy and the other anti-vax loons.

http://www.vox.com/2015/2/2/7966839/rand-paul-vaccines-autism
Good point, and your right.
But that still doesn't change the fact that he is a nothing politically, except for voters from his state and a few other individuals.
He is interesting, a novelty, but that's his claim to fame.
 

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
Good point, and your right.
But that still doesn't change the fact that he is a nothing politically, except for voters from his state and a few other individuals.
He is interesting, a novelty, but that's his claim to fame.
If you notice he says different things depending on the crowd he's in front of, the same as any other politician. While I never voted for his Daddy, I respected his consistency.

Rand is a better politician than Ron, that's sad to me. I had hopes that he would be the pragmatic version of his dad, but he is turning out to be the better political version of dad.

I still agree with Rand Paul more than with other candidates though.
 

UncleBuck

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If you notice he says different things depending on the crowd he's in front of...I respected his consistency.
i don't think you understand what consistency means, just like rend pawl the (supposed) doctor clearly does not understand what "sexually transmitted disease" means.
 

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
You going to follow me around the entire time you are awake?

I'll say it again, I have no use for you, I don't believe a word you say, you add no value to any discussions here, and I think you are a creepy stalker. You will never get a serious reply from me even if I completely agree with you.

Now, are you going to keep blowing up my alert box every post I make and claim you are not obsessed? I don't think people believe you anymore, you prove otherwise on a daily basis.
 

UncleBuck

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You going to follow me around the entire time you are awake?

I'll say it again, I have no use for you, I don't believe a word you say, you add no value to any discussions here, and I think you are a creepy stalker. You will never get a serious reply from me even if I completely agree with you.

Now, are you going to keep blowing up my alert box every post I make and claim you are not obsessed? I don't think people believe you anymore, you prove otherwise on a daily basis.
jeez, don't have a meltdown.

you are a white supremacist. why is that?
 

desert dude

Well-Known Member
Good point, and your right.
But that still doesn't change the fact that he is a nothing politically, except for voters from his state and a few other individuals.
He is interesting, a novelty, but that's his claim to fame.
My post had nothing to do with Paul's electability.

I simply pointed out a blatant hit job by left-wing media against a guy that lefties, and righties, don't like. Many on RIU like to say "what left wing bias"; this is a cut and dried case of it. This is why Fox news (yes, news) is dominant, because they are mostly fair and balanced, just as they claim. Most people wretch a little bit when they come across MSNBC by accident.

In a recent poll, (Iowa, I think) Ron Paul came in second behind Scott Walker. This far from 2016 makes such polls only mildly interesting. Never the less, that poll shows Paul is more than a novelty.
 

AlecTheGardener

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My post had nothing to do with Paul's electability.

I simply pointed out a blatant hit job by left-wing media against a guy that lefties, and righties, don't like. Many on RIU like to say "what left wing bias"; this is a cut and dried case of it. This is why Fox news (yes, news) is dominant, because they are mostly fair and balanced, just as they claim. Most people wretch a little bit when they come across MSNBC by accident.

In a recent poll, (Iowa, I think) Ron Paul came in second behind Scott Walker. This far from 2016 makes such polls only mildly interesting. Never the less, that poll shows Paul is more than a novelty.
Who had to run an apology about "no-go" zones?

Fox News.

Surely you jest.
 
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