shot in the back!

deadgro

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damn dude, what are you, pre-law, lol???
Doubt it.. Curtainment isn't a word lol, its a colloquialism that doesn't apply to guns or law. And laws in the US aren't interpreted by trends, unless that's a loose term for precedent. And the precedent, based on numerous cases, is that self defense can't be proven when someone attempts to flee.
 

curious2garden

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true, the courts may need to sort that out for ya after, but first things first.
LOL :) I agree! If you are in my house you are coming out with a bullet or a knife in you. But maiming and killing for property only works in TX and in some venues in FL. In law school the argument started out with shooting a guy you woke up and found in your bedroom. They morphed it finally to a teenager crawling out your window....... we got to argue all the points along the way. The other one I really enjoyed was the arguments about trap guns. I LOVED Criminal Law.
 

whitebb2727

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I always look at both sides of the coin.

What if the thief had threatened to walk out and get a gun.

What if the thief was known as dangerous and made a threat.

I would have dialed 911 and took a defensive position.

I'll say it again. I don't condone shooting someone in the back but I don't feel sorry for him.

With what's all over the news about all the people killed by cops it would seem that the thief knew the risks.

Either by the store owner or an over zealous cop.
 
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Diabolical666

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28 states are "Stand Your Ground" states this means you can shoot someone if they are stealing from you on your private property.
These states are:Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virgina, Washington, West Virginia
 

Milovan

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Pic of the thief...

unibrow.jpg

I bet this guy would attempt to
steal your shit if given the chance.

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Jimmyjonestoo

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28 states are "Stand Your Ground" states this means you can shoot someone if they are stealing from you on your private property.
These states are:Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virgina, Washington, West Virginia
Damn I'm not on the list :(
 

deadgro

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28 states are "Stand Your Ground" states this means you can shoot someone if they are stealing from you on your private property.
These states are:Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virgina, Washington, West Virginia
That's not true. It means they don't have to retreat their own property and can use deadly force only IF presented with deadly force.
 

curious2garden

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Doubt it.. Curtainment isn't a word lol, its a colloquialism that doesn't apply to guns or law. And laws in the US aren't interpreted by trends, unless that's a loose term for precedent. And the precedent, based on numerous cases, is that self defense can't be proven when someone attempts to flee.
Curtainment applies to property within the curtain wall as for precedent etc..... I'm rushing a post on the way to the cup not writing an amicus but good to meet you.
 

Milovan

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If there is no presented deadly force then
shoot 'em in the leg?
This shows you didn't want to kill anyone?
 

abe supercro

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That's not true. It means they don't have to retreat their own property and can use deadly force only IF presented with deadly force.
believe this is correct, then you'll still have to potentially argue the IF part. depending on the scenario, cameras cld help or hurt your case.
 

Diabolical666

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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand-your-ground_law

There are multiple credible references listed under the references section.
"In the United States, stand-your-ground law states that an individual has no duty to retreat from any place they have lawful right to be and may use any level of force, including lethal, if they reasonably believe they face an imminent and immediate threat of serious bodily harm or death.

You break in my house, you are an immediate threat to me;)
 

Unclebaldrick

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"In the United States, stand-your-ground law states that an individual has no duty to retreat from any place they have lawful right to be and may use any level of force, including lethal, if they reasonably believe they face an imminent and immediate threat of serious bodily harm or death.

You break in my house, you are an immediate threat to me;)
If I am on that jury it doesn't go down that way. Guy running out door is not a threat unless he has your baby.

I actually was on that jury. BTW.
 
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