general hydroponics

nicksol86

nicksol86

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You all made me back off from advanced nutrients so I am looking into other options and think i wanna go with general hydroponics. What nutrients should i all use from General Hydroponics?
 
Aeroknow

Aeroknow

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Maxi-series will work good also. It easier and cheaper than the floraseries.
I get tired of one, and switch back to the other.
Both work good.
 
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DirtyMcCurdy

DirtyMcCurdy

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First off, good choice on going with GH. I have used there nutes in the past and all are good. Can't go wrong with their 3 part... everyone else pretty much copied them on the 3 part option so its a good choice, if you go that route. The FloraNova is also a great choice. I'd skip the Maxi series.

Also GH supplements are pretty good quality as well... definetly pick up a bottle of Kool Bloom liquid, Armor Si and CaliMagic. Those are the staples, you can add more supplements if you'd like... maybe Diamond Nectar for the humic acid.
 
Aeroknow

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DirtyMcCurdy said:
First off, good choice on going with GH. I have used there nutes in the past and all are good. Can't go wrong with their 3 part... everyone else pretty much copied them on the 3 part option so its a good choice, if you go that route. The FloraNova is also a great choice. I'd skip the Maxi series.

Also GH supplements are pretty good quality as well... definetly pick up a bottle of Kool Bloom liquid, Armor Si and CaliMagic. Those are the staples, you can add more supplements if you'd like... maybe Diamond Nectar for the humic acid.
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Why skip on the Maxi series? Have you ever used it? It's complete, and works well, and is cheaper than any other GH base. Straight up!

And, Liquid koolbloom is worthless IMO
 
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DirtyMcCurdy

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Aeroknow said:
Why skip on the Maxi series? Have you ever used it? It's complete, and works well, and is cheaper than any other GH base. Straight up!

And, Liquid koolbloom is worthless IMO
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Yes I've used it. No, I have nothing really against it. Its been a while since I've used it, moved on to what I hope are better nutes, but I remember it not being the most pH stable. I remember having to use quite a bit of pH up. It is cheap and it will get the job done. I think you can do quite a bit better than the Maxi series in this day and age is all I'm saying.
 
iliadtattoo

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What works for me may or may not work for you. KISS I buy 3 bags maxibloom, one bag maxigrow, mix up the powders, feed that + molasses as needed my whole grow. with base water ppm about 60 I run between 400ppm and 1200ppm depending on what my plants tell me. Best of luck figuring out what works best for you.
 
Aeroknow

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DirtyMcCurdy said:
Yes I've used it. No, I have nothing really against it. Its been a while since I've used it, moved on to what I hope are better nutes, but I remember it not being the most pH stable. I remember having to use quite a bit of pH up. It is cheap and it will get the job done. I think you can do quite a bit better than the Maxi series in this day and age is all I'm saying.
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It does indeed drop ph more than most. Thats for sure. Putting it in a jug with hot water, than shaking it up before adding to rez's sucks too. other than that, the cost makes up for it, IMO. But I do get tired of those two issues, and then switch shit up, and then end up coming back To it, then repeat:-) I've been fucking with the maxi-series and the floranova series ever since the two came out. At many locations, with MANY lights. I've found that they just about work equally well, and end up producing the same product in the end.
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What works for me may or may not work for you. KISS I buy 3 bags maxibloom, one bag maxigrow, mix up the powders, feed that + molasses as needed my whole grow. with base water ppm about 60 I run between 400ppm and 1200ppm depending on what my plants tell me. Best of luck figuring out what works best for you.
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I, like you, go 50/50 grow/bloom also, but only for week 3&4 of flower. Other than that for me its grow for veg and most of stretch, and bloom for the rest of flower.
Either way, the maxi works killer. It gets it done for shure.
 
yesismoke

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Flora series is very good stuff i never ran into deficiencies. I keep my ph 5.7-6.2 . I use it in sunshine mix 4 ppms is 500-700 on the .5 meter or 1.0-1.2 ec . Used advanced nutrients with very good results i only stopped using advanced because i ordered sensi coco bloom the b was busted open when i needed it . i was starting flower in coco , so i finished with connie instead of the sensi coco bloom. Finally . I didnt want to order online for awhile.. had the general hydroponics just there so used it. Funny thing is after an indoor harvest i dont know why i bought advanced. Gh is very good .
 
DirtyMcCurdy

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Aeroknow said:
It does indeed drop ph more than most. Thats for sure. Putting it in a jug with hot water, than shaking it up before adding to rez's sucks too. other than that, the cost makes up for it, IMO. But I do get tired of those two issues, and then switch shit up, and then end up coming back To it, then repeat:-) I've been fucking with the maxi-series and the floranova series ever since the two came out. At many locations, with MANY lights. I've found that they just about work equally well, and end up producing the same product in the end.

I, like you, go 50/50 grow/bloom also, but only for week 3&4 of flower. Other than that for me its grow for veg and most of stretch, and bloom for the rest of flower.
Either way, the maxi works killer. It gets it done for shure.
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Never tried mixing it up in hot water before, I assume it helps with the solubility? I've thought of using Maxi Bloom along with micro for the calcium, added nitrogen and micronutients. What all do you add with the Maxi when you're using it?
 
Aeroknow

Aeroknow

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DirtyMcCurdy said:
Never tried mixing it up in hot water before, I assume it helps with the solubility? I've thought of using Maxi Bloom along with micro for the calcium, added nitrogen and micronutients. What all do you add with the Maxi when you're using it?
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Yeah, hot water to dissolve quicker. Not a must do, but Just something a lot of us do.
Are you in coco? Is that why more Ca? If so, yeah the flora micro will give you more of it, but I add calmag to the maxi to keep the Ca and Mg in the rite proportions. I grow lots of dif strains, clone onlys and from seed, and hardly ever have deficencies.
In coco, here is what i add on top of my .1EC tap water, starting in the bloom room. 2.5ml-3ml/gal calmag. And 3.5ml of maxi. Besides phUP, thats it. If I feel like farting around I'll reduce the maxibloom, and add 1/4 tsp/gal koolbloom, later in flower. Tell you the truth though, Last time I bought kool bloom, or "pk boosted" for that matter, was probably about 3yrs ago? Lol. Flora series: 1part micro, 3-4 parts bloom="Pkboost" using floraseries, no need for powder koolbloom.
Anyways, if your using the maxiseries in any other setup, besides coco, you might not even need calmag. In fact, chances are, you won't if you aren't starting with RO water. If RO water, possibly.

If you were to mess around with the maxiseries again, maybe try without other unnesessary additives? Maxi is complete, all by itself, with the exception for coco(usually).
 
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DirtyMcCurdy

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Aeroknow said:
Yeah, hot water to dissolve quicker. Not a must do, but Just something a lot of us do.
Are you in coco? Is that why more Ca? If so, yeah the flora micro will give you more of it, but I add calmag to the maxi to keep the Ca and Mg in the rite proportions. I grow lots of dif strains, clone onlys and from seed, and hardly ever have deficencies.
In coco, here is what i add on top of my .1EC tap water, starting in the bloom room. 2.5ml-3ml/gal calmag. And 3.5ml of maxi. Besides phUP, thats it. If I feel like farting around I'll reduce the maxibloom, and add 1/4 tsp/gal koolbloom, later in flower. Tell you the truth though, Last time I bought kool bloom, or "pk boosted" for that matter, was probably about 3yrs ago? Lol. Flora series: 1part micro, 3-4 parts bloom="Pkboost" using floraseries, no need for powder koolbloom.
Anyways, if your using the maxiseries in any other setup, besides coco, you might not even need calmag. In fact, chances are, you won't if you aren't starting with RO water. If RO water, possibly.

If you were to mess around with the maxiseries again, maybe try without other unnesessary additives? Maxi is complete, all by itself, with the exception for coco(usually).
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No, I haven't tried coco yet and yes, I only use RO water. My tap water is in the high 300's ppm range... garbage.

It was a theory to get rid of some extra nutes I have laying around. Using the micro to sub in some nitrogen for at least the transition stage or maybe even use through veg as well. I know some people use Maxi the whole grow using the "Lucas Formula" just thought why not add some micro? Not so much for the calcium since the Maxi has calcium already in it but figured it couldn't hurt and you'd get some more/other micro nutrients as well. I'd taper off through bloom as it wouldn't be necessary towards the last few weeks.

Right now I'm using Blue Planet Nutrients elite 3 base. Once that is finished I am searching for something else. I've been thinking about trying Botanicare's Kind line or Technaflora's B.C. line. Have any experience with those?
 
Aeroknow

Aeroknow

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DirtyMcCurdy said:
Right now I'm using Blue Planet Nutrients elite 3 base. Once that is finished I am searching for something else. I've been thinking about trying Botanicare's Kind line or Technaflora's B.C. line. Have any experience with those?
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I haven't tried either of those. I did rock botanicare's cns-17 for quite a while. Fantastic results also while using it at about 15ml/gal with it. I would imagine Kind is similar potency wise. Compare that to 4ml/gal of maxi, that is why I'm no longer using the cns17 anymore;-)
 
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