2000 watts in 5x5 too ambitious?

[theexpress]

Looks like we got half of you hatin and half of you sayin go for it. so give me 4 months and ill show you 4 pounds

lol im not hating im just letting you know wjays up. if you dont have anotherarea to put the extra hps light then by all means if you can cool it go for it. you will get some rock hard ass buds.i bet. but you wont pull no four pounds in a 5x5 area.. and also im beginning to think you cant pull four units from a 8x4 area either

 

[Aeroknow]

Mmmmmm, well,
Probably,
Bout a pound

 

[toomp]

show me 4 pounds in your 5x5 area and ill stop smoking weed and go to church

Most Cant hit that with 3 1k in any size room


To the ts 80 watt per sq is getting close to out doors intensity control temps if you can filter co2 in some way it will be your best so far more light bringing walls to little ones close as possible to not loose light intensity

 

[AlphaPhase]

That is way over kill, you can't fit enough plant matter in a 5x5 tent to make it efficient using 2000w. Plus I don't think gavitas can be air cooled? You're tent would turn into an oven. x2 600w or x1 1000w is best. Or even x3 400w. But no, not 2000w, you'd probably get less yield from the 2000w then using one 600.

 

[toomp]

That is way over kill, you can't fit enough plant matter in a 5x5 tent to make it efficient using 2000w. Plus I don't think gavitas can be air cooled? You're tent would turn into an oven. x2 600w or x1 1000w is best. Or even x3 400w. But no, not 2000w, you'd probably get less yield from the 2000w then using one 600.

How is 80 per sq foot over kill?

 

[AlphaPhase]

That's not the problem, ditch the tent and then go for it, but it will not work out very well in a tent. Are you going to grow one plant or something? If not, then what is the game plan? 2000w is meant for a 8x4 area. You could probably get away with it in a 7x4 area, but the problem is using 1 1000w light in a 5x5 tent will make the temperture at least 76 degrees. Adding another 1000w you're looking at way too hot temps unless you want to invest in a portable ac unit. Then you will be rocking 4000w in a 5x5 tent which just makes no sense whatsoever. 1000 watts is plenty for the space, like I said, a grow tent turns into an oven VERY quickly. I used to run 1000w over 3.5x3.5' tables, that was a little over kill. I run 1000w in a 5x5 right now and it's fine, I'd rather have x2 600's in there though but would never run 2000w in a 5x5 tent. That's my opinion and I have quite a bit of knowledge on the subject, take it for what it's worth. There is no way you're going to run 2 gavitas in a 5x5 tent. Not possible.

How is 80 per sq foot over kill?

 

[*BUDS]

How is 80 per sq foot over kill?

Because 50w per sq ft is enough, after that its your growing technique, strain ,temps,pot size etc that gives you the weight not the extra 30w/sq ft.

 

[AlphaPhase]

Correct, if anyone has seen what 2 lbs looks like in a 5x5 tent getting a gram per Watt, you would understand that there is no way to fit an extra 2lbs of plants in that space. Maybe with some crazy vertical set up or something it would be possible. Hmm, well try that. Run two vertical bulbs that are air-cooled and exhausted out of the room. That might work with Ac. maybe.. It would not work running horizontal bulbs imo.

 

[Sativied]

The gavita 1kW is ideal for 5x5 and 5x5 is ideal for the gavita 1kw. Using two in a 5x5 tent is ridiculous.

 

[toomp]

Because 50w per sq ft is enough, after that its your growing technique, strain ,temps,pot size etc that gives you the weight not the extra 30w/sq ft.

You can get 50 in shaded area outdoors would that be enough?

 

[AlphaPhase]

The suns just different than bulbs, bulbs are just trying to mimic the sun, the sun is millions of miles away, so a light is trying to be a mini sun a few feet away from the plants. It's just not the same comparison, if you'd like you can do a side by side, but I bet that unless you flower 200 tiny clones in a party cup with no veg, it just won't work. Now see, we are talking about in a grow tent. If you do not use a grow tent, then yes you could use 2000w.what I'm saying is in a grow tent you can't, unless you just grow in the frameof the tent wwith out the ceiling or walls.

 

[nomofatum]

If you guys really want to max out a tent, stop putting all the lights above the plants. You need to move 50% or more of your light to the walls so your ideal bud growth zone gets much bigger. If the room is too deep you would also want to add hanging CFLs in the middle to totally max it out. Basically if you make the whole plant get the same amount of light that the ideal range portion would normally receive, then all parts of the plant can produce that same quality, size, and weight of buds that normally would only occur on top.

 

[toomp]

The suns just different than bulbs, bulbs are just trying to mimic the sun, the sun is millions of miles away, so a light is trying to be a mini sun a few feet away from the plants. It's just not the same comparison, if you'd like you can do a side by side, but I bet that unless you flower 200 tiny clones in a party cup with no veg, it just won't work. Now see, we are talking about in a grow tent. If you do not use a grow tent, then yes you could use 2000w.what I'm saying is in a grow tent you can't, unless you just grow in the frameof the tent wwith out the ceiling or walls.

You just said a whole bunch of nothing honestly
I can get 50 watt per sq in the shade
But would you plant in full sun to get that 100+ ?

We are after all attempting to mimic it's natural habitat right? Or did we reinvent the wheel with square edges

 

[AlphaPhase]

So do it and let us know how it works out. Are you trying to make the buds 2x the size in the same space or something? We're still talking about grow tents right?

 

[Sativied]

It's too big (big)
It's too wide (wide)
It's too strong (strong)
It won't fit (fit)
It's too much (much).

You just said a whole bunch of nothing honestly
I can get 50 watt per sq in the shade
But would you plant in full sun to get that 100+ ?

We are after all attempting to mimic it's natural habitat right?

No, indoor growing is not about mimicking outdoor, it's about create a balanced environment indoor. Only so much light a plant needs. More is not always more, water, nutes, light... want to use more light, need more space first. You can also boost the 1kW a little which gives plenty for 5x5 to reach the maximum amount of bud you can physically fit in there... in a horizontal grow anyway.

 

[HGK420]

I was under the impression that the big dogs have came to the conclusion that you can squeeze just over 6' x 4' out of a gavita?

The reflector is a bit oblong, it shoots 3' either way from the curved sides that go around the bulb (width) then you get just over 2' either way out the vertical ends of the bulbs(the height)

I'm saying height and width as if I was looking down at the canopy from above..

Am I off here?

 

[Sativied]

Am I off here?

Not entirely, except that it's not something the "big dogs" had to discover, it's something people from gavita have communicated to customers too, you get a rectangular and not perfectly square footprint. It's however a single square tent with reflective walls and unless you run a sog with mini plants along the edges it works fine for 5x5. Not entirely uniform, but better than 2x600/1000 or 2x anything really.

 

[Diabolical666]

I cant wait till my 4 are done under my 2000w light hood...they are in a 5x5 area..eeeee they are retarded fattest buds I ever have grown thus far only in wk 5. no co2. Will post em up

 

[Sativied]

I cant wait till my 4 are done under my 2000w light hood...they are in a 5x5 area..eeeee they are retarded fattest buds I ever have grown thus far only in wk 5. no co2. Will post em up

You got that crazy double bulb thing right? Vaguely remember seeing a picture. People who switch from cheap 1kw hps clones to real philips bulbs in gavita fixtures make similar comments about their buds though. It's (given a proper setup such as exhaust) plug and play 1gpw.

 

[Diabolical666]

https://www.rollitup.org/t/2k-watt-hood.850516/
my hood