Am I Right To Start Flushing Now?

[chuck estevez]

Have you ever heard of bud to leaf ratio? More leaves != more buds.

yep, the more food providers and food storage units I can provide, the bigger the fruit will be. Bigger roots, better leaves, bigger better buds.

 

[blimey]

So you ARE just talking out of your ass.

Really? Your going to argue that plants pull nutrients out of younger leaves first? You actually need a citation for that?

 

[blimey]

yep, the more food providers and food storage units I can provide, the bigger the fruit will be. Bigger roots, better leaves, bigger better buds.

Citation please. People breed for lower bud to leaf ratio and not because it lowers yield.
You must think this guy is going to yield pounds lol. http://rollitup.org/t/gdp-i-think-large-cola-dry-weight-guesses.860757/

Still waiting on the response to my question worm. Even if you don't agree with my response I answered yours. Post 122.

 

[chuck estevez]

Citation please. People breed for lower bud to leaf ratio and not because it lowers yield.

http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/plants/leaf/

 

[Pinworm]

Really? Your going to argue that plants pull nutrients out of younger leaves first? You actually need a citation for that?

If everything you said is such "common knowledge", then you won't have any trouble backing up your claims with some credible citation.

 

[reapersfamiliar]

 

[blimey]

If everything you said is such "common knowledge", then you won't have any trouble backing up your claims with some credible citation.

I'm not going to jump through hoops for you when you won't even answer my question regardless of citations.
You're hiding behind me being too lazy to post citations. Make a point for why not flushing is beneficial. We already agreed it doesn't add any noticeable weight.

 

[reapersfamiliar]

yep, the more food providers and food storage units I can provide, the bigger the fruit will be. Bigger roots, better leaves, bigger better buds.

++++++++++++rep

in a nutshell, why can't they see this?

 

[RM3]

IME those that flush don't understand the cure

It's great that some of you follow, share, link my Truth about Flushing thread, which does have the science but you are leaving out my ditty on fermentation & oxidation found on page 14 of my calling all noob growers thread

https://www.rollitup.org/t/calling-all-noob-growers.316301/page-14

the actual science is very clear ,,,

http://www.uic.edu/classes/bios/bios100/lecturesf04am/lect12.htm

N is a required source of energy for complicated pathways to succeed

I feed till the end and don't flush, my buds have been sampled by many members here that have posted smoke reports. One grower posted mine were the best he had ever tasted.

But I know how to properly cure em

 

[blimey]

http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/plants/leaf/

That's a link not a citation, post the quote out of there that says more leaves gives you more buds.

 

[chuck estevez]

IME those that flush don't understand the cure

It's great that some of you follow, share, link my Truth about Flushing thread, which does have the science but you are leaving out my ditty on fermentation & oxidation found on page 14 of my calling all noob growers thread

https://www.rollitup.org/t/calling-all-noob-growers.316301/page-14

the actual science is very clear ,,,

http://www.uic.edu/classes/bios/bios100/lecturesf04am/lect12.htm

N is a required source of energy for complicated pathways to succeed

I feed till the end and don't flush, my buds have been sampled by many members here that have posted smoke reports. One grower posted mine were the best he had ever tasted.

But I know how to properly cure em

i was just trying to dig up some links for these guys. THX

 

[Pinworm]

That's a link not a citation, post the quote out of there that says more leaves gives you more buds.

You are going to attack his sources, when you have still yet to provide ANY?

 

[chuck estevez]

That's a link not a citation, post the quote out of there that says more leaves gives you more buds.

look at post above you and start reading. If you really want to learn, you should be reading for awhile, have fun

 

[blimey]

IME those that flush don't understand the cure

It's great that some of you follow, share, link my Truth about Flushing thread, which does have the science but you are leaving out my ditty on fermentation & oxidation found on page 14 of my calling all noob growers thread

https://www.rollitup.org/t/calling-all-noob-growers.316301/page-14

the actual science is very clear ,,,

http://www.uic.edu/classes/bios/bios100/lecturesf04am/lect12.htm

N is a required source of energy for complicated pathways to succeed

I feed till the end and don't flush, my buds have been sampled by many members here that have posted smoke reports. One grower posted mine were the best he had ever tasted.

But I know how to properly cure em

I actually hang dry on stems before trimming to slow the dry and keep processes going as long as possible and pop em in and out of jars as needed to keep humidity in the jars around 60%, I like to think I understand the cure.

But can you tell me why advocate adding base nutrients until the end if your buds have stopped growing?

 

[blimey]

You are going to attack his sources, when you have still yet to provide ANY?

You have yet to even provide a point lol.
And I already showed why more leaves does not equal more buds.
http://rollitup.org/t/gdp-i-think-large-cola-dry-weight-guesses.860757/

 

[chuck estevez]

I actually hang dry on stems before trimming to slow the dry and keep processes going as much as possible before trimming and pop em in and out of jars as need to keep humidity in the jars around 60%, I like to think I understand the cure.

But can you tell me why advocate adding base nutrients until the end if your buds have stopped growing?

you going to read the links, or keep on like a donkey?

 

[dbdweller]

you guys kill me... any chemicals have weight please dont hate for this.

if you older you remember paraquat that was sprayed by the mexican army in mexico to kill all the marijuana they had. What it did was make the pot fucking fantastic for a high. It made all the pot gold and sold like wild fire. BUT what it did was kill your fucking lungs. People were chocking up black shit aftert time. So they did not know and thought it was the best fucking pot EVER. lmao
So to say your customers do not know...might just be they have no idear .You do not know what you do not know in the first place.
Now a cup winner flushed... i do not know about everyone but i do know of about 80% of the winners who had to say how they grew it.. said they always flushed.
And if you are a novious and spray your plants with chemicals during flower like sm 90 or such it WILL stay until flushed. If you do not flush it will stay and if you have a cancer patient on certain meds.. he WILL get sick. His stomach will not settle.

Flushing is a preference plan and simple. If anyone has been growing for a while (I am 52 and have since i was 14) we tend to be connoisseur and look forward to True plant tastes. If you do not flush you still have chemicals in it. That has not been denied because those who do not say they DO NOT TASTE it. But you have to knopw it is still there and you are smoking it.
Flushing is just that flushing. Getting what you can out of the stalk and leaves before she turns. The plant will take what remaining chemicals it has and distribute them through out. That is why most will flush till they see the difency in the leaves.

Now weight lol WTF all water has weight. Your plant has 3 stages of growth periods while in flower. Once you have past the third stage your nutes are doing NOTHING. She is already taking what nutes are in her stalk and leaves and stems and transferring them to the buds. ALL PLANTS HAVE A NATURAL NEED FOR SELF PRESERVATION and really on there flowers to pass on life in the form of seeds, pollen and such.

So dont hate... its still a preference but after 40 years i will always flush. Also if chemicals are in the plant drying and not flushed... some strains that change color while curing will not.

 

[chuck estevez]

You have yet to even provide a point lol.
And I already showed why more leaves does not equal more buds.
http://rollitup.org/t/gdp-i-think-large-cola-dry-weight-guesses.860757/

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?????????????????

 

[blimey]

You going to provide citation like pinworm is so fond of? I've already done my indepenedant research and settled my system. Provide the citation that shows I'm wrong.

 

[reapersfamiliar]

That's a link not a citation, post the quote out of there that says more leaves gives you more buds.

try having bud without fans and see what you get.




EDIT: i challenge you (if you really grow) to take one of your plants after veg and cut 50% off and report the results here with pics at harvest.