help! my clones are def!??!

[jonjon777]

My clones have something wrong with them, progression seems slow but the leaves are turning yellow and white,

I did make the mistake of using a small amount of Fox Farm big bloom with pH balanced water, a very small amount,

two of them are clearly dead which I don't care about I have 30 seedlings in the same tray and it will be a disaster if the problems consistant, and no, the seeds only recieved pH water. they look good.

It looked at the deficiencies n it seems like it could be multiple ones. I can't tell pff

I have most likely whatever I need on hand from lime to Fox farms and general hydroponics,I just need to figure it out first....

it started with a lower tips yellowing and then turning brown tips slightly almost like nute burn, spread throughout day, from old growth to new and is followed by crinkling brown leaves!?!

Here's some pics

Avenge my ladies!

 

[Pinworm]

I wouldn't feed your seedlings/cuttings until you get them out of the humidity dome and into some dirt, or whatever medium you're planning on using. Makes it tougher for them to root out. When you're watering your cubes, you only need to dip one corner and let it soak for a second or two. Just plain tap water works great.

 

[jonjon777]

I'm realizing now, as I fine tune my techniques, I've always used too much water, light and nutes, part of learning curve I guess,

Still doesnt explain what's wrong

 

[Pinworm]

I'm realizing now, as I fine tune my techniques, I've always used too much water, light and nutes, part of learning curve I guess,

Still doesnt explain what's wrong

But, it does. Feeding them too early stunts them. Cuttings and seedlings don't need a lot of water. And, RW cubes hold a lot of moisture, even when they feel dry on the outside.

 

[Terry385]

 

[jonjon777]

Your right, but it could cause this effect?

absolutely not trying to argue with you, I agree with you, but if it was that wouldn't it have manifested itself 8 days ago when I did it or at least sooner, and it was a low dose dunk, literally 150 ppm max...

gosh I sound like an idiot lol

But seriously

 

[Sativied]

Clones got bloom nutes and are burned, seedlings got only ph-ed water and look good. Good luck solving that mystery.

 

[jonjon777]

I realize they had a little burn, they've had it for the past week, what bothers me is how it rapidly went to shit all of a sudden today, a week later, I flushed rw with pH water 7 days ago...

 

[jonjon777]

I'm not trying to be incompetent or read too much into it, but something just doesn't sit right with me about it...

Thanks to everyone for your replies, there appreciated...

 

[Pinworm]

I realize they had a little burn, they've had it for the past week, what bothers me is how it rapidly went to shit all of a sudden today, a week later, I flushed rw with pH water 7 days ago...

You shocked the shit out of them when you poured food onto their underdeveloped root structure. Like I said. Just plain water until they are ready for transplant. Once you have transplanted, and they have adjusted to living in whatever medium you plan on using, then maybe start thinking about feeding them.

 

[jonjon777]

 

[Pinworm]

 

[*BUDS]

The reason they are dead or dying is due to overwatering and bad stem cuts. With rw cubes you should only ever have it 50% wet, no more even at the beginning, weigh cube dry and weigh one drenched then and its in between . Also be careful and clean with the stem cut and tools.
Also make sure the temps is around 80, too cold they will fail, too hot they will fail.

 

[Knott Collective]

If you are early in the cycle, first week to ten days - stop opening the dome to "check" on them! Once you set the clones up with proper amount of water in the cubes close the dome, put 'em under some good light and BACK AWAY. Don't open them for at least a solid week or even more. We've gone 10-12 days on some haze strains that are a little reluctant to root. With the dome closed tight the water can't really go anywhere so the humidity stays near or above 95%, which is exactly what the little ones need. What they don't need is to be shocked by a sudden change in humidity levels and temperature that happens every single time you open that dome. Doesn't matter if you've got every other thing exactly right - if you continue to open the dome before they're ready your results will suffer.

This is our experience over years of blazing success with clones. We rarely yield less than 100% on our trays. I've used the picture below several times so if you've seen it before I apologize - but this is what happens when you don't mess with 'em and let nature do her work.