what the difference of the yield between led and hps? is it a huge number?
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神秘人
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you mean every strain will reduce about one pound or 1 square meter if i use led through all phases?
majins
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If your comparing equal real watts from the wall LED will yeild the same if not more from a more targeted spectrum.
If your comparing advertised watts HPS will be more since LEDs usually only pull around 1/2 there advertised wattage.
If you comparing $ per yield HPS is cheaper.
If your comparing advertised watts HPS will be more since LEDs usually only pull around 1/2 there advertised wattage.
If you comparing $ per yield HPS is cheaper.
flaxseedoil1000
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Unless you are in CA and paying $.37 kWh like some of us
majins
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Ouch thats expensive, I thought my .32 kWh was bad.
Id still say HPS would be cheaper $ per yield since.
A LED pulling 600W from the wall will cost just as much in power as a HPS pulling 600W from the wall.
Difference being HPS will cost 1/4-1/2 the set up price.
Iv got a 900W advertised power LED which pulls 600W compared to my old setup which pulled 650W with my HPS setup.
Reason I swapped was because of the heat. LED I can keep temps under control with just a fan where the HPS required the AC to be running which added a lot to the power bill.
My old setup cost me $250 for bulb, reflector, balast and got 2 grows from it before I retired it.
New LED setup cost $480 for LED panel. And im spending another $150 to supplement it with some extra DIY LED at the moment to add some more light.
Id still say HPS would be cheaper $ per yield since.
A LED pulling 600W from the wall will cost just as much in power as a HPS pulling 600W from the wall.
Difference being HPS will cost 1/4-1/2 the set up price.
Iv got a 900W advertised power LED which pulls 600W compared to my old setup which pulled 650W with my HPS setup.
Reason I swapped was because of the heat. LED I can keep temps under control with just a fan where the HPS required the AC to be running which added a lot to the power bill.
My old setup cost me $250 for bulb, reflector, balast and got 2 grows from it before I retired it.
New LED setup cost $480 for LED panel. And im spending another $150 to supplement it with some extra DIY LED at the moment to add some more light.
churchhaze
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1 pound
flaxseedoil1000
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My buddy in Utah likes to remind me of his $.11 kWh flat rate (not 5 tiers like here), so cheap there they don't even have gas appliances, every thing is electric.
I went with Induction 2 years ago. Pricey up front but it's already paid for itself in energy savings.
Northern Lights, week 7
This sticks were vertical but the colas were so heavy they started leaning
神秘人
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i read your sentence 3times but i still cant understand you........ english is very hard to a chinese farmer!
神秘人
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wow! your plant has a great quality! i debt it worth 120 rmb per gram! what light you are using? i also wondering your fertilizer, i only can buy peters professional fertilizer have you heard of it? if you know could you please teach me a little bit about how to use it thanksMy buddy in Utah likes to remind me of his $.11 kWh flat rate (not 5 tiers like here), so cheap there they don't even have gas appliances, every thing is electric.
I went with Induction 2 years ago. Pricey up front but it's already paid for itself in energy savings.
Northern Lights, week 7
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This sticks were vertical but the colas were so heavy they started leaning
flaxseedoil1000
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The light is made by Inda-Gro here in California:
http://www.inda-gro.com/IndaGroShop/energy-savings-lighting-and-controls/combopack.html
For flowering I use Dr. Earth Flower Girl. It's a dry fertilizer and at my local nursery.
I do add some Epsom salt for the Mg and Sulfur.
I give them a weekly treat of Neptune's Harvest Fish / Seaweed mix with Earth Juice Hi-Brix Molasses and Bio-Ag TM-7 for the micro nutes and humic / fulvic acid.
btw your english is way better than my mandarin
神秘人
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wow im really rocked by your generous, you know in china nobody like to tell you their recipes, although your fertilizer is impossible found in china i will try to found them in foreign website, or if you like you can buy them for me i can give you money first and pay you a extra fee for helping me!The light is made by Inda-Gro here in California:
http://www.inda-gro.com/IndaGroShop/energy-savings-lighting-and-controls/combopack.html
For flowering I use Dr. Earth Flower Girl. It's a dry fertilizer and at my local nursery.
I do add some Epsom salt for the Mg and Sulfur.
I give them a weekly treat of Neptune's Harvest Fish / Seaweed mix with Earth Juice Hi-Brix Molasses and Bio-Ag TM-7 for the micro nutes and humic / fulvic acid.
btw your english is way better than my mandarin
If you're talking about efficient LED like Cree, Osram, Phillips, Vero:
HPS is less expensive to start. LED is less expensive to operate (more useable light per watt, less heat).
If you're talking about epistar/epiled like the common inexpensive LEDs, there's not much difference.
(Some brands like Lush, Kind, HydroGrowLED, BlackDog, GrowBlu don't disclose the brand of diode they use. It's safely assumed they use epistar, but sell their lights at prices equal to efficient LEDs. These lights appear to be the worst of both worlds.).
HPS is less expensive to start. LED is less expensive to operate (more useable light per watt, less heat).
If you're talking about epistar/epiled like the common inexpensive LEDs, there's not much difference.
(Some brands like Lush, Kind, HydroGrowLED, BlackDog, GrowBlu don't disclose the brand of diode they use. It's safely assumed they use epistar, but sell their lights at prices equal to efficient LEDs. These lights appear to be the worst of both worlds.).
flaxseedoil1000
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There is no one 'best' fertilizer and you don't have to use Dr. Earth, find something local that is similar. Start simple, you will learn with each grow. I have been cultivating for almost 3 years and am just getting things figured out. Good luck with your grow and remember, out grow the government.
神秘人
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thank you so much, im willing to learn more! there are some people plant it in china but a few people really analysis it. its hard to make sure something when im beginnig, welcome you to china i will tread you GUOBAO meat!! lolThere is no one 'best' fertilizer and you don't have to use Dr. Earth, find something local that is similar. Start simple, you will learn with each grow. I have been cultivating for almost 3 years and am just getting things figured out. Good luck with your grow and remember, out grow the government.
hiitsbob
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the light will not make much of a difference for new growers. learn what the plants need then improve on each grow. like flaxseed stated it takes time to achieve what you want. good luck if you need any help feel free. what is GUOBAO meat? i like meat but this sounds new to me.
Cobnobuler
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神秘人
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thank you ! GUOBAO meat is a kind of dish from Northeast china where im living!