budlover13
King Tut
A bow?
Meh. I've considered it. Kicking around the idea of putting together an archery/airgun range in my back yard.
But I'll be damned if I give up my long guns.
A bow?
The sticking point, in my mind, is that once our country starts banning ammo capable of penetrating body armor, the door is open to more bans.
Here in Kali we have to hunt with non-tox ammo, almost all of which will penetrate soft body armor. If penetrating body armor is the standard, what am I supposed to hunt with?
Still, 5.56 is not handgun ammo.
So, according to federal law it is illegal to ban AR15 ammo. An AR15 is NOT a handgun.
Standard military body armor will stop a 7.62 round. What 5.56 will penetrate body armor?
5.56 won't penetrate body armor, at least not the body armor used by US military (and police) personnel.
On that same note, in my mind, is that once our country starts letting prayer in public schools, etc etc, the door is open to more church and state mixing.
See how that works both ways?
And btw, I think you are quite wrong, the door is not open to more bans. And they are not necessarily controlled entirely by the legislative branch. BATF makes rulings on firearms and weapons all the time, that never pass through the legislative branch.
BATF and CAL-FIRE practically begged California to not pass the lead ammo ban. BATF because much of the non-tox that is out there is more capable of penetrating body armor than lead-based ammo and CAL-FIRE because of fear of fire from errant rounds in dead grass.
Pretty sure it's illegal for them to retain the records from a background check for moar than a certain period of time.Yes, the state has record of every firearm I own, even the one without a serial number. I bought them all from a gun show, or gun store, there is a mandatory instant background check through the sheriffs. They don't "make" me register shit, I choose to buy guns properly and go through the proper channels. I am not a psycho gun nut who thinks it is even remotely possible for the federal govt. to come take my guns. If you think they will come take your guns, you have serious mental issues and should not own one anyways.
Pretty sure it's illegal for them to retain the records from a background check for moar than a certain period of time.
So you live in Hawaii?Yes, the state has record of every firearm I own, even the one without a serial number. I bought them all from a gun show, or gun store, there is a mandatory instant background check through the sheriffs. They don't "make" me register shit, I choose to buy guns properly and go through the proper channels. I am not a psycho gun nut who thinks it is even remotely possible for the federal govt. to come take my guns. If you think they will come take your guns, you have serious mental issues and should not own one anyways.
Form 4473 if a NICS check prevailed, seller will keep the form for 5 years. https://www.atf.gov/files/publications/download/p/atf-p-5320-8/atf-p-5320-8-chapter-12.pdf all the rules you need right there.Pretty sure it's illegal for them to retain the records from a background check for moar than a certain period of time.
I think that's for the FFL holder. He needs to keep his transaction records for 5 yearsForm 4473 if a NICS check prevailed will keep the form for 5 years. https://www.atf.gov/files/publications/download/p/atf-p-5320-8/atf-p-5320-8-chapter-12.pdf all the rules you need right there.
We'll just give them to Israel, they always seem to need ammoSome steel jacketed rounds are considered armor piercing, the ATF put in a request and he authorized it.
Some green tips are steel jacketed, it is a wishy washy reason but makes sense. I wonder where it will all go instead of being sold to US civilians.
Yep, that's what I meant, seller keeps the form for 5 years if they did a NICS check on the purchaser. 20 years if they did not. \I own several Long arms without serial numbers.....
I think that's for the FFL holder. He needs to keep his transaction records for 5 years
The only records kept as far as I know are on handguns.
Long guns are sold from person to person in my state. A form is filled out and each person gets a copy, and that's it. No NCIS, so the Feds don't know squat.Yep, that's what I meant, seller keeps the form for 5 years if they did a NICS check on the purchaser. 20 years if they did not. \
Thanks for pointing out my screw up.
In my state you walk up to the guy, give him cash, shake hands, and be on your way. The only restriction is that both purchaser and buyer have to be from this state. The hand shake is the most important part of this ritual.Long guns are sold from person to person in my state. A form is filled out and each person gets a copy, and that's it. No NCIS, so the Feds don't know squat.
I sold a rifle to a Cop last year, after paper work was done I handed him his copy and he threw it in the trash can. I said WTF, he said no one is ever going to ask me for it....
Now, if I want to sell a hand gun person to person the buyer has to have a purchase permit and a copy gets sent to the state. Those records are kept permanently.
I keep all my transaction records just in case....
I own several Long arms without serial numbers.....
I think that's for the FFL holder. He needs to keep his transaction records for 5 years
The only records kept as far as I know are on handguns.
Records of what?but BATF at this point keeps permanent records.
In my state you walk up to the guy, give him cash, shake hands, and be on your way. The only restriction is that both purchaser and buyer have to be from this state. The hand shake is the most important part of this ritual.