leaves changing on me again

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cbuts05

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Hey guys so my watering yesterday I gave just water at pH 6.8.
Runoff since ive started is always coming in at 5.2-5.7 but goes up a few points after a day.

I switched to 12/12 today.growing in soil under two 1ks.

Can someone tell me why this happens and how to correct it ?
I threw out my veg stuff..so should I start using my JJ 2 Part next feeding ?

Thanks
 

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mainliner

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it looks like lockout

your ph is 5.5 you said coming out of the bottom and it goes up 1-2 points per day ...... That's about a week to get back to 6.8

that's all i got :)
 
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cbuts05

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mainliner said:
it looks like lockout

your ph is 5.5 you said coming out of the bottom and it goes up 1-2 points per day ...... That's about a week to get back to 6.8

that's all i got :)
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So how can I correct it ? Only seems to be lower leaves so far.
 
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cozz

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How are you measuring run off as don't forget it doesn't give a true reading of the root zone with soil, as long as your putting in good then you should be ok, what soil is it? And what nute range were you using, if organic then there'd be no reason to ph, if chem then perhaps you have changed the ph of your soil, when was your last repot? And how much were you feeding in veg??
 
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cbuts05

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cozz said:
How are you measuring run off as don't forget it doesn't give a true reading of the root zone with soil, as long as your putting in good then you should be ok, what soil is it? And what nute range were you using, if organic then there'd be no reason to ph, if chem then perhaps you have changed the ph of your soil, when was your last repot? And how much were you feeding in veg??
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I'm using pro mix soil.
My nutes were agrogreen and 20-20-20 crystal mix..all was good until I used straight Water.. Runoff has always been 5.3+ . usually was 6.3 going in when using nutes.. The crystal 202020 lowered the pH every time..I now have JJ 2 part to use. Just not sure when
 
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cozz

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Ahh never used pro mix but isn't it basically perlite and peat or something, now I understand why the ph is so important to you, I would raise the ph like mainliner says, perhaps see what your bloom nutes do to your feed, they may raise it for you, it's why I do organics, using chems to fix problems from other chems freaks me out, not a dig just im not clever enough to do it all lol, I'd perhaps try this raising the ph before you hit full flowering as I'm sure you know they're gonna change needs etc so if your able I'd revert back to 18/6 and sort this first, a week now could save you a lot of grief later on, sorry I cant help ya but good luck
 
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cbuts05

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cozz said:
Ahh never used pro mix but isn't it basically perlite and peat or something, now I understand why the ph is so important to you, I would raise the ph like mainliner says, perhaps see what your bloom nutes do to your feed, they may raise it for you, it's why I do organics, using chems to fix problems from other chems freaks me out, not a dig just im not clever enough to do it all lol, I'd perhaps try this raising the ph before you hit full flowering as I'm sure you know they're gonna change needs etc so if your able I'd revert back to 18/6 and sort this first, a week now could save you a lot of grief later on, sorry I cant help ya but good luck
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Thanks..can't really let em grow any taller ..maybe someone can verify if that's how to raise my pH thanks
 
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cbuts05

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the amount your run off is away from your target is how much you want to up your ph by[/QUOTE]
So I should be using pH up correct
 
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mainliner

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its an alkaline is lime ph up

this is a ph up for soil, youd use it at the beginnig of your grow , not with the water , the ph up liquid is for your water.

its organic stuff i think ...... But you don't need any right now ..... Get some for next time and it should solve this ph problem for next time .
 
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cbuts05

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mainliner said:
its an alkaline is lime ph up

this is a ph up for soil, youd use it at the beginnig of your grow , not with the water , the ph up liquid is for your water.

its organic stuff i think ...... But you don't need any right now ..... Get some for next time and it should solve this ph problem for next time .
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well if im ph going in at 6.3 and coming out at 4.5 its got to be the soil right? thats why i want to top dress with this..ive been reading alot of people doing it to help with problems like mine.. aswell as ph upping, ive seen both
 
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mainliner

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cbuts05 said:
well if im ph going in at 6.3 and coming out at 4.5 its got to be the soil right? thats why i want to top dress with this..ive been reading alot of people doing it to help with problems like mine.. aswell as ph upping, ive seen both
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yes but don't over up it
use one or the other
and i don't know how much to use of lime , so becarfull with it :)
 
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