Clone only strains

petlar

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yea i done a little digging around and come up with pretty much what yodaweed is saying.
but did find a couple of forums where guys where saying the real crippy had bright red hairs
and in a few places was known as red beared and it was real dank.
(take that as you wish)
 

akhiymjames

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The pack I am getting from Topdawg is
tk x (Legend og x stardawg bx)
I just like to research my strains, pretty sure I will find fire in there.
Where the hell you getting Topdawg seeds from? JJ loves to keep his gear under raps and sells it for crazy prices. Would love to get some of his gear tho. I know he works his stuff really good.
 

Bad Karma

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I'm pretty sure this got mentioned in here before, but the Adam Dunn show has done a bunch of detective work for us, when it comes to which OG is real, and where they come from.
Krippie, aka, Kryptonite is/was the name for the original OG Kush. It was a mass produced strain, that was sold along the east, and southeast, coast of the US in the 80's and 90's. Krippie is literally what I grew up smoking in high school.
Krippie was renamed OG Kush in the mid 90's thanks to the heavy influence of the gangsta rap/hip hop music of that era.
Anything labeled Krippie, Triangle Kush, or Ghost OG, that you can get today, was most likely an S1 bag seed from the original OG Kush, from back in the day.
 

shishkaboy

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Where the hell you getting Topdawg seeds from? JJ loves to keep his gear under raps and sells it for crazy prices. Would love to get some of his gear tho. I know he works his stuff really good.
Dang,I didnt know it was so super secret. Umm...nowhere:wink:
Anything specific you looking for?
 

shishkaboy

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I'm pretty sure this got mentioned in here before, but the Adam Dunn show has done a bunch of detective work for us, when it comes to which OG is real, and where they come from.
Krippie, aka, Kryptonite is/was the name for the original OG Kush. It was a mass produced strain, that was sold along the east, and southeast, coast of the US in the 80's and 90's. Krippie is literally what I grew up smoking in high school.
Krippie was renamed OG Kush in the mid 90's thanks to the heavy influence of the gangsta rap/hip hop music of that era.
Anything labeled Krippie, Triangle Kush, or Ghost OG, that you can get today, was most likely an S1 bag seed from the original OG Kush, from back in the day.
Its obvious that this guy was around when a lot of the earliest breeding was being done, but on various forums and even in the youtube video comment section, the dude that "Dave" is talking about denies most of the claims made. Not that a lot of the genetic combinations he talks about dont sound like the likely parents of some of the most famous crosses, I just believe a different OG backstory. I think the bud that was purchased by pbud, was traced back to hawaii, by way of PNW. Please correct me if I am wrong.
This is why I was asking about the Legend OG.
 

akhiymjames

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Dang,I didnt know it was so super secret. Umm...nowhere:wink:
Anything specific you looking for?
I don't know what's available from him really. Hell just about anything really. I don't know if it super secret but everywhere that Topdawg seeds are sold out and have been. I've heard how his stuff is sold for crazy prices so I just figured your well connected
 

shishkaboy

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I don't know what's available from him really. Hell just about anything really. I don't know if it super secret but everywhere that Topdawg seeds are sold out and have been. I've heard how his stuff is sold for crazy prices so I just figured your well connected
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Hell, I aint even connected enough to get a gorilla glue clone, and that's like a freebie. But I do know a drop is coming real soon with some pre 98, tk, legend og, stardawg crosses. Gotta keep popping packs and hope for the best.
 
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Joedank

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A drop is coming real soon.
he just got a spot in seattle its all over icmag . said he wated to be in denver but that will have to come later.
word on the vine is when gypsy went down some of his vendors got leaned on . JJ did the right thing and pulled the plug on his whole op. then waited for the right spot .... pros to him cant wait for his shizzle to pop again in large numbers. he has got a good eye...
 

Bad Karma

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Its obvious that this guy was around when a lot of the earliest breeding was being done, but on various forums and even in the youtube video comment section, the dude that "Dave" is talking about denies most of the claims made. Not that a lot of the genetic combinations he talks about dont sound like the likely parents of some of the most famous crosses, I just believe a different OG backstory. I think the bud that was purchased by pbud, was traced back to hawaii, by way of PNW. Please correct me if I am wrong.
This is why I was asking about the Legend OG.
The Pbud story is one of many OG origins that the Adam Dunn show is investigating. They're running a DNA test (aka the OGnome project) on several dozen different OG's, to see exactly how they're all related, or if they're the same. I know the Pbud is in there as they talked to a guy in Hawaii on the air that was supplying the genetics for the testing. I think most of the OG origin stories have a grain of truth to them, but for the sake of profits, got exaggerated, and distorted, over time.
Dave's story is the most valid, and verified (not by everyone though, as you mentioned), account of how OG Kush rose to fame across the US. Like I said, I think most of the people involved have a piece of the puzzle, he just happens to have several pieces of the puzzle, and they're already put together for us.
 
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shishkaboy

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The Pbud story is one of many OG origins that the Adam Dunn show is investigating. They're running a DNA test (aka the OGnome project) on several dozen different OG's, to see exactly how they're all related, or if they're the same. I know the Pbud is in there as they talked to a guy in Hawaii on the air that was supplying the genetics for the testing. I think most of the OG origin stories have a grain of truth to them, but for the sake of profits, got exaggerated, and distorted, over time.
Dave story is the most valid, and verified (not by everyone though, as you mentioned), account of how OG Kush rose to fame across the US. Like I said, I think most of the people involved have a piece of the puzzle, he just happens to have several pieces of the puzzle, and they're already put together for us.
The biggest bone I have to pick with the teller of this story is, he says he still has the genetics to recreate all of the top stuff. He basically said he still knows the formula and has the ingredients, but promised his wife to not break the law, all the while claiming to care mostly about the evolution of the plant.

With the laws in CO, OR, and CA there must be a legal way to do it. I just don't like excuses, I look at it like someone that's perfectly healthy but chooses to be homeless, versus people born with disabilities living functional lives.

There are people popping seeds like crazy looking for anything close to these clone onlys, how you gonna actually say "I could remake the original OG, Chem, Dogbud but my wife wont let me?"

I don't have the formula or the ingredients but I am setting up a big move across country to a LEGAL state to do small scale chucking.
 

Bad Karma

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The biggest bone I have to pick with the teller of this story is, he says he still has the genetics to recreate all of the top stuff. He basically said he still knows the formula and has the ingredients, but promised his wife to not break the law, all the while claiming to care mostly about the evolution of the plant.

With the laws in CO, OR, and CA there must be a legal way to do it. I just don't like excuses, I look at it like someone that's perfectly healthy but chooses to be homeless, versus people born with disabilities living functional lives.
He almost went to jail for life (and he did serve multiple years), his wife nearly took his kids, and left him. So he promised her that he wouldn't do anything illegal (e.g. breeding) until cannabis is legal on a federal level, to make sure that awful situation never happens to him again, he clearly states that. Are you really equating that scenario to being a lazy person, that won't fend for themselves, and ends up homeless?
I think you need to medicate, and take a moment, to think about your perspective on things.
 

shishkaboy

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He almost went to jail for life (and he did serve multiple years), his wife nearly took his kids, and left him. So he promised her that he wouldn't do anything illegal (e.g. breeding) until cannabis is legal on a federal level, to make sure that awful situation never happens to him again, he clearly states that. Are you really equating that scenario to being a lazy person, that won't fend for themselves, and ends up homeless?
I think you need to medicate, and take a moment, to think about your perspective on things.
So give it all up, or pass the buck then. Shit or get off the pot (pun intended)
What if it never goes federally legal, then what?
All Im saying is it a lame excuse (like most excuses)... why so personally attacked?
Its just my opinion.....I am allowed to share my opinion right?
Basically, what I am saying is "Those who wish to sing always find a song"- Swedish proverb.
But I will take your advise and medicate to think about my perspective, thank you.:wink:
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Just him having those seeds is prolly enough to ruin his family, he should just flush em now.
 
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_MrBelvedere_

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The Dave Richards story is a fabrication. Who has priceless genetics and also has a wife that doesn't want the money lol? Going to smoke out Woody and Jack, tailed by police, etc. quite the story. And says he needs help germinating the seeds? Legit people who have grown his strains have said they are average. Why didn't the seeds he bring to Amsterdam yield hot fire?
Is it really that much fun being broke?

total bullshit bullshit story needs to be squashed.

In an interview breal gives credit to og Kush coming from Florida and they renamed it. No close connection to chemdog strains though, maybe somehow along the line they are related but not closely probably.
 
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akhiymjames

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Hell, I aint even connected enough to get a gorilla glue clone, and that's like a freebie. But I do know a drop is coming real soon with some pre 98, tk, legend og, stardawg crosses. Gotta keep popping packs and hope for the best.
Hahaha who you telling lol but that's good to hear that a drop is coming soon I wonder where it's gonna be at? Would love to try anything he's gonna put out hopefully it's soon rather than later. I'll always continue to pop my packs cus I like treasure hunts and I like variety and trying new stuff so I will always do that but it's good to have some nice strajns you know will put out without having to wonder
 

Bad Karma

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The Dave Richards story is a fabrication. Who has priceless genetics and also has a wife that doesn't want the money lol?
This was already answered above, in my response to Shishkaboy.

Going to smoke out Woody and Jack, tailed by police, etc. quite the story.
A story that actually happened, and which I might point out, invloved Adam Dunn's own mother getting arrested, along with Dave.

"In February 1997, using McWilliams's cash advances, McCormick rented a mammoth, turreted, moated, gangplanked, five-story mansion on Stone Canyon Road in the tony Bel-Air section of Los Angeles, where his new neighbors included Ronald Reagan and Elizabeth Taylor. The mansion - "the ugliest house in Bel-Air," McWilliams would joke - was dubbed Liberty Castle, and instantly became a destination for Tinseltown's partying set. Indeed, stories of the brief reign of "the Pot Prince of Bel-Air" and the celebrity smokers and nubile hempie girls who gathered at Liberty Castle are legion in the marijuana movement.

But the cannabis-loving celebs and cuties weren't what distinguished Liberty Castle or attracted the attention of the law; it was the enormous quantity of marijuana being grown there. McCormick was continuing his botanical-cum-biochemical research into the medical efficacy of a variety of strains, and there were plants on the balcony, plants in the yard, plants visible through the windows, plants everywhere.

Clearly, more than a book and a video on medical marijuana were in the works. In interviews, both McCormick and McWilliams told me that they had drawn up plans to distribute the crop to one or more of the many cannabis clubs that had surfaced in California in the nineties. McWilliams also adamantly denied that there were plans to sell the weed in the open market. "Our agreement was that anything that got sold was for medical purposes," he said. In the spring of 1997, McWilliams invited Scott Imler, who was now director of the Los Angeles Cannabis Resource Center ( the former LACBC ), to his home in Laurel Canyon. At that meeting McWilliams asked for an exclusive contract to supply the club with marijuana. Imler, who has always advocated a by-the-proposition approach to production and distribution, declined.

( Another important event occurred that spring, when McWilliams was busted with seven joints at the Detroit Metro Airport. That case wound its way through several state courts, but was rendered moot when the feds were ultimately given overriding jurisdiction over McWilliams. )

Any plans to distribute McCormick's crop, whether to cannabis clubs or elsewhere, were snuffed on July 29, 1997, when 50 flack-jacketed, heavily armed L.A. County sheriff's deputies and DEA agents descended on Liberty Castle. McCormick was arrested along with four other people, including Renee Boje, a 28-year-old artist who the DEA claimed was observed "watering plants." ( Boje is currently in Canada, fighting extradition and facing a ten-year federal mandatory-minimum sentence in the United States. She has become a cause celebre, profiled in Glamour magazine and elsewhere. "Call me naive," she says now. "Todd told me it was legal." )

The Liberty Castle bust became a media sensation because of the upscale location, the flamboyant setting, and, above all, the sheer number of plants: 4,116, as cited by law enforcement. In their defense, McCormick and the others said that many of the plants were clones or seedlings. And while cop counts are often wild exaggerations, the photos that ran in the Los Angeles Times and elsewhere showed what looked like a sea of denuded pots sitting in the backyard.

McCormick sat in jail for two weeks, until movie star and hemp activist Woody Harrelson posted the $500,000 bail. "I am helping Todd because he is a friend, but more importantly because he is working to help others in a way that California voters have declared perfectly legal, in spite of the fact that the DEA considers this legislation a threat to their somewhat questionable reason for being," Harrelson told the press."


source: http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/10/thread10797.shtml

Legit people who have grown his strains have said they are average.
Okay, show me a grow journal, a smoke report, or something stating this.

Why didn't the seeds he bring to Amsterdam yield hot fire?
They did, ever hear of Positronics seeds, and the strain Kryptonite?

total bullshit bullshit story needs to be squashed.
Yes, bullshit stories need to be squashed, and that's what just happened to your story with the help of easily found facts on the internet.
 

akhiymjames

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Let me gaze into my crystal ball, ah yes, I can see your future now...
Oh, wait, I'm just high, and staring into my flowering tent, never mind that crystal ball bullshit.
Here's the same cut of GSC in flower, yes, yes, your future is looking bright indeed.
Get away from my keyboard, and give me your tears, gypsy woman.
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Aye Karma can you hit me with a recent pic of your GSC. From what I'm seeing of the last pics you posted its not looking the way OGKB stacks. Do you think it could Platinum GSC? Is yours very slow in veg too? Any tips on getting this girl to speed up I have never dealt with a plant that grew so slow :lol:
 

shishkaboy

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Hahaha who you telling lol but that's good to hear that a drop is coming soon I wonder where it's gonna be at? Would love to try anything he's gonna put out hopefully it's soon rather than later. I'll always continue to pop my packs cus I like treasure hunts and I like variety and trying new stuff so I will always do that but it's good to have some nice strajns you know will put out without having to wonder
Yeah, I enjoy hunting packs the most I think. I just hope for the best and if I find anything, no problem spreading some love.
 
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