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Mad Hamish

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One thing for me: If I do not find a keeper per pack, i skip the breeder. Keeper I take to mean that at least one person in my circle cant live without running the cut. If a pack has nothing worthy of any persons taste it is a write off seed company. Packs cost money. Getting them to Africa costs time and stress and extra charges for currency exchange etc. a pack has to deliver. ONLY Gage, Bodhi and Karma gals going around here for good reason.
 

Mad Hamish

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Really, problems you say? Sin city seeds you say?
Problems like these.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/buddhas-dream-sin-city.861753/

Second run from seeds and no problems, user error? Maybe.
Yeah... My next experience after SinCity was Bodhi and then Gage. SinCity first. All I can say is I am not even keeping half an eyen on SinCity. They produce a good bean and I guess I chose badly, but i wont easily choose them over Gage. Big huge amazing difference for me is tje sheer terpene levels in Gage gear. STRONG smells and flavors, incredible bubble hash. Always. Dont want to knock SinCity but I never even remember them any more.
 

akhiymjames

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Yeah... My next experience after SinCity was Bodhi and then Gage. SinCity first. All I can say is I am not even keeping half an eyen on SinCity. They produce a good bean and I guess I chose badly, but i wont easily choose them over Gage. Big huge amazing difference for me is tje sheer terpene levels in Gage gear. STRONG smells and flavors, incredible bubble hash. Always. Dont want to knock SinCity but I never even remember them any more.
Ever since I have started testing for SinCity I have seen nothing but fire strains. The Oscar Goodman and Platinum Delights I grew were both fire. Oscar had keeper Phenos and I'm running the Platinum Delights pheno again. SinCity are doing some great things so retry on something else should happen I think for the few that didn't have good experience with them. Tangerine Power is unstable but there are stable phenos but Agent Orange is unstable so it's no surprises there. Give them a try again I'm sure you can find something you like
 

Mad Hamish

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Ever since I have started testing for SinCity I have seen nothing but fire strains. The Oscar Goodman and Platinum Delights I grew were both fire. Oscar had keeper Phenos and I'm running the Platinum Delights pheno again. SinCity are doing some great things so retry on something else should happen I think for the few that didn't have good experience with them. Tangerine Power is unstable but there are stable phenos but Agent Orange is unstable so it's no surprises there. Give them a try again I'm sure you can find something you like
Well after running the CherryAK x Jo and Dirty Sanchez from B, i have lost all interest in OG crosses and similar pine cone bud types. Towers of Power are my new thang. Actually used to be my only types I ran, old Dutch types like Chronic and Armageddon were solid bats of dank. Seeing this but with California type terpene profiles and potency has raised the bar for my lab. Anything else must go. Some Karma gear really grabbing my attention right now... Any recommendations from SinCity would be much appreciated AJ. I wont even look at packs without a rec from somebody I trust and I feel I understand your taste and vice versa.
 

akhiymjames

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Well after running the CherryAK x Jo and Dirty Sanchez from B, i have lost all interest in OG crosses and similar pine cone bud types. Towers of Power are my new thang. Actually used to be my only types I ran, old Dutch types like Chronic and Armageddon were solid bats of dank. Seeing this but with California type terpene profiles and potency has raised the bar for my lab. Anything else must go. Some Karma gear really grabbing my attention right now... Any recommendations from SinCity would be much appreciated AJ. I wont even look at packs without a rec from somebody I trust and I feel I understand your taste and vice versa.
Well if baseball bats of dank if what you love then you will love the Oscar Goodman I tested. Nothing but bats huge dank buds everywhere. Popcorn no such thing as bottom buds were easily 2gram and up buds. Very dense very frosty and potent. Tropical mango melon buds with hints of haze and berry. Buds so big barely had to trim. Check out my Oscar Goodman journal when you have some time. Don't know if SinCity is gonna release it but I think they should. I haven't ran much from them so I can't recommend much but I know that Oscar is what your looking for maybe not flavor wise but dank huge buds she produces.
 

Mr.Head

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Well after running the CherryAK x Jo and Dirty Sanchez from B, i have lost all interest in OG crosses and similar pine cone bud types. Towers of Power are my new thang. Actually used to be my only types I ran, old Dutch types like Chronic and Armageddon were solid bats of dank. Seeing this but with California type terpene profiles and potency has raised the bar for my lab. Anything else must go. Some Karma gear really grabbing my attention right now... Any recommendations from SinCity would be much appreciated AJ. I wont even look at packs without a rec from somebody I trust and I feel I understand your taste and vice versa.
Find that Pheno of Fireballs I had. Pics in the Breeders Boutique thread. Buds are super dense. Hopefully I can get the clones to be just as fat. Was just a small plant however, i know you grow em much bigger :)
 

st0wandgrow

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You mean if I buy a pack of f1 seeds I am not going to get a copy of the mother cut in that pack??? GTFO lol. Its not hard to understand that if a breeders goal is stability they will worm the line, but if they just want to cross out a clone only to make it available in seed form then dont expect to get an exact representation of the mother or father. It will be a mix ie. MmxPp=1MP, 1mp, 1Mp, 1mP. And thats to keep it simple for genetic mixing, there is hella more shit that plays a role in how genes meet than just making the cross on paper so again to expect either parent to show through is not having real expectations of a f1 cross.

Thats just what it is, really has less to do with the breeder but more the person buying f1s expecting the clone only keeper out of it.
Good post. How does price factor in to this though? At a certain price point should we expect a better, more stable product?

To me the pollen chucks should be cheaper than the worked lines. It doesn't seem to work that way. We've got companies like Gage charging $125 a pack for unstable pollen chucks, and Sannie charging $30 a pack for lines that have been worked to F4, F5 etc.
 

Jack O'Neill

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Good post. How does price factor in to this though? At a certain price point should we expect a better, more stable product?

To me the pollen chucks should be cheaper than the worked lines. It doesn't seem to work that way. We've got companies like Gage charging $125 a pack for unstable pollen chucks, and Sannie charging $30 a pack for lines that have been worked to F4, F5 etc.
i agree with the pricing to a point, but pollen chuckers is where its at. especially pollen chuckers with elite clones or strains. the possibility of something better than the original. there's nothing wrong with pollen chuckers. If it wasnt for pollen chuckers, there wouldnt be no cherry puff, grapestomper, white fire, GSC, etc, or with thc over 30%
 

2easy

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i agree with the pricing to a point, but pollen chuckers is where its at. especially pollen chuckers with elite clones or strains. the possibility of something better than the original. there's nothing wrong with pollen chuckers. If it wasnt for pollen chuckers, there wouldnt be no cherry puff, grapestomper, white fire, GSC, etc, or with thc over 30%
i actually kind of agree its nice to get a bit of variation in the mix, you might get that super freak, you might not. a true breeding strain with the plants all turning out similar is great if your doing large production grows from seed but lets face it these days we do the production runs from clones and select those mums from the seed runs so a little variation is nice.
 

st0wandgrow

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i agree with the pricing to a point, but pollen chuckers is where its at. especially pollen chuckers with elite clones or strains. the possibility of something better than the original. there's nothing wrong with pollen chuckers. If it wasnt for pollen chuckers, there wouldnt be no cherry puff, grapestomper, white fire, GSC, etc, or with thc over 30%
For sure. I enjoy digging through those packs looking for a gem.

I guess I fall on to that category that 2easy mentioned above. First impression buyer. Unfortunately my first impression of gage was not a good one so I haven't been in any hurry to get back to them. Bodhi on the other hand has treated me very well, so I bought a bunch of those. I'm sure I'll try GGG again at some point... even though I really don't need to be buying more seeds ATM.
 

st0wandgrow

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i actually kind of agree its nice to get a bit of variation in the mix, you might get that super freak, you might not. a true breeding strain with the plants all turning out similar is great if your doing large production grows from seed but lets face it these days we do the production runs from clones and select those mums from the seed runs so a little variation is nice.
There's definitely more vigor with the F1's. I grew out a few inbred lines recently, and while the uniformity was nice, they are really slow growers
 

thenotsoesoteric

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Yeah... My next experience after SinCity was Bodhi and then Gage. SinCity first. All I can say is I am not even keeping half an eyen on SinCity. They produce a good bean and I guess I chose badly, but i wont easily choose them over Gage. Big huge amazing difference for me is tje sheer terpene levels in Gage gear. STRONG smells and flavors, incredible bubble hash. Always. Dont want to knock SinCity but I never even remember them any more.
I just happened to find a couple packs of sin's gear that I wanted to try. I definitely wouldn't put them above either bodhi or gage seeing as I have yet to run either, sin is just another option out there. I do plan on picking up some of bodhi's satsuma to run along with sin's tangerine power give kind of a side by side comparison of the two crosses. Besides, I have zero loyalty when it comes to bean sellers. They all lost a little bit of credibility with me around 2005-6ish. Now I just look at each pack as a gamble because stability is no longer a concern of most customers so few breeders will offer consistent results. Will most produce good smoke, sure, but man I don't ever remember hermies and a thousand phenotypes being the large issue they are now.

And I remember how that LVBK turned out for you back a couple years ago when I first ran the buddha's dream and I would be feeling the same way about sin's gear too if I had that experience you had. Small buds are cool if you're smoking but not if you're growing. Luckily for me, I picked buddha's dream and it yields great and has a good heavy sativa stone. The four girls I'm running now are at 21 day of 12/12 and already starting to goo up and them girls are huge. One has a great hazy fruity smell that over powers the rest, so it should be a good run.
 

thenotsoesoteric

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the word inbred scares me. reminds me of cousins f-ing each other = retard baby
somebody said breeding practices are almost the same, so if its the almost the same why would i want a retard baby?
How do you think humans got to be in the billions? A lot of inbreeding. Plus, any royal family or old world money family are inbred. Inbreeding doesn't always produce retards. If IBL aren't important, then why are cats like Bodhi out searching for land race IBLs?
 
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