Dj Short 20 year old back stock seed sprout.

chirim2003

chirim2003

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thump easy said:
then i 2 will start a journal for the quest of the old red haird skunk
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i will deff watch that journal i havent seen any rhs for years and come to think of it i dont remember seeing any beans of it anyplace either ill ask outfall if he has any stashed as he has a frickin a to z genetic library for the end of the world lol
 
Dr.D81

Dr.D81

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Jd Short said:
Either directly from me or Dj himself. I am available in oregon and Dj often makes himself available at the premiere cannabis cups like the emerald cup in cali or the high times cup in michigan and or denver. Myself and Dj should be available at the high times cup in oregon this july. Currently there is no distributor offering them for this price. Seeds are generally market up 100% and as much as 200% when not acquired directly from myself or Dj and unfortunately cannot be verified at this time from any major distributor as authentic because they are bought and resold from another 3rd party distributor.

Im not going to get into a flamewar here over the authenticity, production, distribution or price of Dj Short genetics or business practices. What I will say is that Dj Short's Old World Genetics does not work directly with any distribution center and anything offered by any 'premiere' seed bank are bought and resold from another smaller 3rd party seed vender and no proceeds, royalties or payments are received by Dj Short's Old World Genetics from any premiere seed bank offering Dj Short's genetics.
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I would love to get like three packs in July at the cup. Just pm me and I can get you an email:)
 
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althor

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I just find it so interesting only DJ Short gear is being "faked" by the big seed banks.
Every other breeder in the entire world have no problems with the "big seed banks" but all DJ Short gear is fake unless it comes directly from DJ Short.

Such bullshit.

"dont blame us for your hermie, mutant, ungerming seeds because THOSE are fake"....
 
blowincherrypie

blowincherrypie

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althor said:
I just find it so interesting only DJ Short gear is being "faked" by the big seed banks.
Every other breeder in the entire world have no problems with the "big seed banks" but all DJ Short gear is fake unless it comes directly from DJ Short.

Such bullshit.

"dont blame us for your hermie, mutant, ungerming seeds because THOSE are fake"....
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I've heard of other breeders running into this (don't feel like thinking or researching to find out who) and they will verify if its true or not and let their finding known to the community.. That way we would know what seed banks are selling bunk shit.. It's way too convenient to talk about 3rd party this and that.. What rubs me the wrong way is that you don't seem to care that people are selling bootleg product as yours.. I would be pissed if people were selling trash beans as mine and people were making reports that MY beans were trash.. I sure as hell would let people know...

But not you.. No you just want us to believe you are somehow above all of this or something..

Or... The more likely scenario is you guys sold a bunch of shit beans and got a bunch of bad reports and this is a line of bull you're trying to sell us.. Whatever though..

Can I leave you with one question though??

If the parents were truly around as you claim they are, how come NOBODY i know has so much as heard of REAL BLUEBERRY being around in literally over 10 years (I would guess 02-03)



Edit: Just to make it clear the "you" in the above statement is JD not Alt
 
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Jd Short

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Of course other gear is faked by the seed banks. But what other gear is as stabilized as Dj Short's gear? What other gear is going to be as obvious when it is knocked off? And what other company has the weight of the Old World Genetics brand?

In other words, how many people will notice when an already knocked off f2 is knocked off? Not too many people would notice that....but try knocking off Blueberry and we're all gonna hear about it. So although I do not believe that Old World Genetics is the only genetic company to encounter this problem, I do believe that we hear about it most often in regards to Dj's gear because it is the most recognizable.
 
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Jd Short

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blowincherrypie said:
I've heard of other breeders running into this (don't feel like thinking or researching to find out who) and they will verify if its true or not and let their finding known to the community.. That way we would know what seed banks are selling bunk shit.. It's way too convenient to talk about 3rd party this and that.. What rubs me the wrong way is that you don't seem to care that people are selling bootleg product as yours.. I would be pissed if people were selling trash beans as mine and people were making reports that MY beans were trash.. I sure as hell would let people know...

But not you.. No you just want us to believe you are somehow above all of this or something..

Or... The more likely scenario is you guys sold a bunch of shit beans and got a bunch of bad reports and this is a line of bull you're trying to sell us.. Whatever though..

Can I leave you with one question though??

If the parents were truly around as you claim they are, how come NOBODY i know has so much as heard of REAL BLUEBERRY being around in literally over 10 years (I would guess 02-03)



Edit: Just to make it clear the "you" in the above statement is JD not Alt
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I do care that people are selling bootleg genetics. There's nothing I can do about it. Read the entire thread and my responses.

And lots of people I know smoke REAL BLUEBERRY on a daily basis.
 
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Jd Short

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Why are people being allowed to use terms like dickrider and load of cum in mouth in derogatory ways that are clearly meant to be offensive towards certain people. That kind of talk is illegal in many places, why is it condoned here? And terms like pull the tampon out as if having a period is somehow gross and sick? Why are people like this allowed to exist within our communities? I mean is this really the company we're keeping and allowing to keep here, and if so....I have to ask....why?

How come if I post comments about where authentic gear is available those comments are deleted because they're 'spam', but yet certain people are allowed to flame on like this with absolutely zero recourse....why is this?
 
Dr.D81

Dr.D81

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Jd Short said:
Why are people being allowed to use terms like dickrider and load of cum in mouth in derogatory ways that are clearly meant to be offensive towards certain people. That kind of talk is illegal in many places, why is it condoned here? And terms like pull the tampon out as if having a period is somehow gross and sick? Why are people like this allowed to exist within our communities? I mean is this really the company we're keeping and allowing to keep here, and if so....I have to ask....why?

How come if I post comments about where authentic gear is available those comments are deleted because they're 'spam', but yet certain people are allowed to flame on like this with absolutely zero recourse....why is this?
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That is a damn fine question. You get the same crap on here if you do anything in your grow that ventures out of people on here's comfort zone.
 
CashCrops

CashCrops

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Jd Short said:
Why are people being allowed to use terms like dickrider and load of cum in mouth in derogatory ways that are clearly meant to be offensive towards certain people. That kind of talk is illegal in many places, why is it condoned here? And terms like pull the tampon out as if having a period is somehow gross and sick? Why are people like this allowed to exist within our communities? I mean is this really the company we're keeping and allowing to keep here, and if so....I have to ask....why?

How come if I post comments about where authentic gear is available those comments are deleted because they're 'spam', but yet certain people are allowed to flame on like this with absolutely zero recourse....why is this?
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Because mr. rollitup wants his paycheck, pay him and then you can say whatever you like. I have seen this many times in the Michigan section as well. Hell, it may be in the TOU when you sign up but jerks like me never read that crap.....(Waits for mods happy response!)

Ps. I use ad blocker in Chrome and I don't have to be bothered with ad's
 
QuestforKnowledge

QuestforKnowledge

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Jd Short said:
I am not Dj Short, nor have I ever claimed to be. I am Jd Short, his son.

I just completed a germination test on the Whitaker Blues and Flo and got 100% germination success on both and tested out 160 Blueberry at the end of last year and got above 95% success rate on those. This was from 2014 stock and all back-stock Blueberry, Flo, Whitaker Blues, Azure Haze and Vaniluna tested out at the same rates.

Im not sure what region the seeds in question are coming from or what they're going through to get to where they're going, but when they leave Dj Short's Old World Genetics they test out at 95% germination and better, typically 99% and better.

And as far as the finickiness, that's to be expected when growing heirloom compared to hybrid. These strains don't grow like your typical hybrid. And if you expect them to and treat them as if they will you're gonna get finicky results. The same would be said about heirloom tomatoes compared to hybrid tomatoes. But we all know how much better heirloom tomatoes taste, right?

Im sorry you thought the beans you got sucked, thankfully it's a big world and there's lots of beans out there to choose from, right? Maybe try ordering them from somewhere else next time. And out of curiosity, where did you order the bunk beans in question from? Maybe it would be nice to let others know which seed company you are ordering form that sold you bunk beans. I know you didn't get them from Dj because True Blueberry is an offering that hasn't been around through Dj Short's Old World Genetics since...well, a long time if ever. If I remember correctly it was an offering through Spice Of Life Seeds. And coincidently, if I'm not mistaken it's a strain that's been out of stock for well over several years, so I doubt any seed company offering them has authentic Dj Short seeds either.

I sincerely hope you find what you're looking for.

Better luck next time.
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if you have any bb beans you wanna get rid of ill take some an work with them im in Cen Cal
 
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