Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

x713

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that was a feed store :(.Everytime i ask about kelp meal in big bags for feedstock i get crazy looks nobody has heard of that down here.Its like im speaking a different language
 

Joedank

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that was a feed store :(.Everytime i ask about kelp meal in big bags for feedstock i get crazy looks nobody has heard of that down here.Its like im speaking a different language
thats why they grow longhorns on that brush down there . they are burly and can gain on nothing . kelp for livestock has been replaced by nutrient "licks" part of the macdonaldsizing the world . kinda like only buying bags of soil ....funny i am adding kelp, d.e. , and peat moss to my smaller attached greenhouse bed . ph is moving up a tic . so iam planting alfalfa as well.
edit: the bed is 6X9 with a cut out . and has /had lasagna style food for the worms in there when i got the house:) excavated like a yard of casting from around the bottom/ thermal battery before i ammended last round ... no roots down there just worms and castings . any hay i add is pulled down so fast its fun.... did wood chips on top and they dissapeared too :) my 5th season with this bed and it keeps getting better.

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earthling420

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I cant seem to get rid of these gnats that are slowly working on the bottom leaves I noticed. I have a good mulch on.top and great soil. Should I buy some mosquito dunks and water in or topdress? And buy the traps for the adults? I have tried adding a dry layer on top of soil but they seem to be in the dirt :/
 

Midwest Weedist

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I cant seem to get rid of these gnats that are slowly working on the bottom leaves I noticed. I have a good mulch on.top and great soil. Should I buy some mosquito dunks and water in or topdress? And buy the traps for the adults? I have tried adding a dry layer on top of soil but they seem to be in the dirt :/
Buy the dunks and powder them on top of your medium. Then take something like a shot glass, fill it with apple cider vinegar and leave on top of your planter. Replace the vinegar every couple of days or simply strain off any bugs and use it again.
I had a BAD infestation once, took 3 weeks of Bti and vinegaring to do the job
 

Joedank

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I cant seem to get rid of these gnats that are slowly working on the bottom leaves I noticed. I have a good mulch on.top and great soil. Should I buy some mosquito dunks and water in or topdress? And buy the traps for the adults? I have tried adding a dry layer on top of soil but they seem to be in the dirt :/
misquito bits mixed into the soil is a great help . letting the plants dry out works too . rotaion of b bassania and neem/aloe/tamari works for me (b.bassinia) has a 4hr reentry interval one of the lowest in the biz for a fungus/adjuvant mix.
 

Midwest Weedist

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No more magnesium deficiencies!! Starting from the top left and moving right I've got a Scotts og, Yunnan, B52,below the B52 is another Scotts. The 4 smaller ones are a Goji og, Ghost og, Venom og, and one that I can't think of at the moment.
*Edit* The other one is a gorilla glue #4 cross!!
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The Yunnan finally started to stretch a bit now that I've switched from 24/0 to 18/6. I'm really hoping she stretches enough to reach my screen lol
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greasemonkeymann

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No more magnesium deficiencies!! Starting from the top left and moving right I've got a Scotts og, Yunnan, B52,below the B52 is another Scotts. The 4 smaller ones are a Goji og, Ghost og, Venom og, and one that I can't think off at the moment.

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hey man you have gnats? the lower leaves in the picture with your hand looks like you have some bugs possibly...
 

earthling420

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Buy the dunks and powder them on top of your medium. Then take something like a shot glass, fill it with apple cider vinegar and leave on top of your planter. Replace the vinegar every couple of days or simply strain off any bugs and use it again.
I had a BAD infestation once, took 3 weeks of Bti and vinegaring to do the job
Sweet thanks man! ill buy some today and try it out!
I tried letting the soil dry out, but I feared the outside was getting too dry and the damned gnats were still in the soil just more hidden since it was getting dryer. cant wait to woop their asses! they trying to go for.my seedlings too mofos.
 

earthling420

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misquito bits mixed into the soil is a great help . letting the plants dry out works too . rotaion of b bassania and neem/aloe/tamari works for me (b.bassinia) has a 4hr reentry interval one of the lowest in the biz for a fungus/adjuvant mix.
are you watering that solution in? or foliar? thanks!
 

Midwest Weedist

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Sweet thanks man! ill buy some today and try it out!
I tried letting the soil dry out, but I feared the outside was getting too dry and the damned gnats were still in the soil just more hidden since it was getting dryer. cant wait to woop their asses! they trying to go for.my seedlings too mofos.
Good luck, they're a pain! Just don't do what I did and dump a shit ton of vinegar in your planter.. That was an interesting experience. They'll run rampant on seedlings too! I had a bunch get taken down a while ago before I figured out the issue. Now that I use Bti, karanja, and neem I never see more than one or two now though. One thing I suggest is to take your dunks and put one in your water source or in a couple gallons of water for your next full watering. The bacterium will spread through the water making it an extremely effective soil drench.

anyone else in fabric pots have a problem with big air pockets on the edges? should I fill em in withcastings or soil?
Yes, it's been a constant battle for me for almost 8 months with my fabric planters, albeit them only being 3 gallons. A cover crop will remedy the situation fairly well. I've toyed with the idea of adding some vermiculite around the edges in all of mine once they start to pull away from the side. If I don't have a cc down I have to mist down my soil with a waterbottle multiple times a day or else my rhizosphere completely dries up.
I'll be switching to hard planters that I hand drill drainage holes in after this harvest. I hate digging up my planters and destroying the soil food network, but I HATE struggling with water in my arid apartment. It's actually why I end up over watering most times.
Don't get me wrong, air planters are amazing, but they're a pain if you're not in 15+ gallon planters
 

earthling420

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Good luck, they're a pain! Just don't do what I did and dump a shit ton of vinegar in your planter.. That was an interesting experience. They'll run rampant on seedlings too! I had a bunch get taken down a while ago before I figured out the issue. Now that I use Bti, karanja, and neem I never see more than one or two now though. One thing I suggest is to take your dunks and put one in your water source or in a couple gallons of water for your next full watering. The bacterium will spread through the water making it an extremely effective soil drench.


Yes, it's been a constant battle for me for almost 8 months with my fabric planters, albeit them only being 3 gallons. A cover crop will remedy the situation fairly well. I've toyed with the idea of adding some vermiculite around the edges in all of mine once they start to pull away from the side. If I don't have a cc down I have to mist down my soil with a waterbottle multiple times a day or else my rhizosphere completely dries up.
I'll be switching to hard planters that I hand drill drainage holes in after this harvest. I hate digging up my planters and destroying the soil food network, but I HATE struggling with water in my arid apartment. It's actually why I end up over watering most times.
Don't get me wrong, air planters are amazing, but they're a pain if you're not in 15+ gallon planters
Thanks! lol I was thinking about that. Aw damn, that sucks. Nice, will do man. Thanks! Ill have to post a pic when I defeat them...
Wow long time. I have a cc lol extra dirt like 2 inches and some cc around edges actually worked pretty good now that I think about it. hm, maybe youd end up adding too much vermiculite if it kept pulling away? Damm, aint nobody got time for dat lol
I hearya man. Unless there is a huge difference in roots I might just switch back to plastic too. I feel your pain lol.
 
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Pattahabi

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foliar = 30ml neem to 5 ml protec(ksil) with 5ml tamari(wheatprotien) to 1 gallon water(ABOVE 75*) add last 10ml aloe
That's a lot of neem to one gallon. I use 1-2 tsp (5-10ml) per gallon of neem oil, 5ml of protekt, and 1/8th tsp of 200x aloe. I find about 80-82 degrees to be the sweet spot for keeping things emulsified without getting chunky.

Cooffeeee...... :sleep:

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greasemonkeymann

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anyone else in fabric pots have a problem with big air pockets on the edges? should I fill em in withcastings or soil?
the trick is to pull on the edges when you transplant, water the edges first and it'll "fill" in a lil bit, one of the reasons I prefer some legumes growing in the soil before my cannabis gets in the container, keeps the smartpot more rigid, kinda gives it some structure, so to speak.
 
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