My 8hr flowering experiment

torontoke

torontoke

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Dr. Who said:
The idea for this whole schmear came from a paper from 1913 in France from a man named Julien Tournois....He was growing Hops and Hemp "underglass" (old term for greenhouse growing) He found that they would "flower most precociously in winter". He observed that they would flower most rapidly when allowed only 6 hours of daylight.

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https://books.google.com/books?id=wh9sW9QII6kC&pg=PA131&lpg=PA131&dq=Julien Tournois&source=bl&ots=CVDfEmC5DZ&sig=-lnx1NhB-Puu5zHT4rqocBVjqy8&hl=en&sa=X&ei=5V8hVe2PN4SLsAXfq4CADw&ved=0CDoQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=Julien Tournois&f=false
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https://books.google.com/books?id=c25eErZbHr4C&pg=PA182&lpg=PA182&dq=Julien Tournois&source=bl&ots=YRtz8wMTYb&sig=8atR4ux-mp3S57Z_zTJRDaveoaA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=5V8hVe2PN4SLsAXfq4CADw&ved=0CD0Q6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=Julien Tournois&f=false

Google Julien Tournois and you will eventually find all sorts of views on this idea as it stands in regard to basic plant growth to C3 plant function manipulation....

Do NOT use logic to explain what you believe to be fact on this topic......

The OP is making an acceptable experiment to discover the useable information it can supply.....I am about to do a commercial size run in a side by side test to determine the commercial viability of this theory in actual application.....I will not be starting this phase for another 8 weeks.....I will cover the experiment here also.

Till that time. I AM closely following this thread!!!

WELL DONE so far! @torontoke

Doc
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Thanks doc
I am unable to even water these girls for a lil while now so i will have to get my gf to water and take some pics for me. I will post them tonight or tomorrow.
 
torontoke

torontoke

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image.jpg image.jpg Super bummed out that i couldnt get any better pics but my gf did her best.
Hopefully in the next couple days i will be able to get in the cab and make some minor changes to get the temp down a bit.
Sitting at 86 and about 30 humidity which cant be helping things much.
Still nothing wilting or dying so small miracles lol.
 
Gaz29

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torontoke said:
The entire point of the experiment is to find out if the plants will flower using only 6 hrs of light.
Its wont matter if they were seeds or clones or how big they are.
I only need to know if they will flower
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So are you keeping plants in a straight 12 hrs of darkness,then 6 on.? Best trying 18 darkness+6 light,that would possibly work... just sum positive input/2cents etc...but good luck what ever you do../watchn this thread with interest.
torontoke said:
The entire point of the experiment is to find out if the plants will flower using only 6 hrs of light.
Its wont matter if they were seeds or clones or how big they are.
I only need to know if they will flower
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Torontoke,i think that 6/8 hours light is definitely do-able but do you give them only 6hours of darkness or (makes sense to me)18 darkness n 6 hrs light..? I know your experimenting,but doesn't mj NEED @least 12 darkness before it'll flower..or are u getting flowering plants by ONLY giving them 6straight hrs of dark.? Did you give a long dark period before starting flowering?..
By the way,I'm following this thread n think what your trying is gonna be good for everyones electricity bills if it's viable.!
Keep up the good work..
 
torontoke

torontoke

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Gaz29 said:
So are you keeping plants in a straight 12 hrs of darkness,then 6 on.? Best trying 18 darkness+6 light,that would possibly work... just sum positive input/2cents etc...but good luck what ever you do../watchn this thread with interest.

Torontoke,i think that 6/8 hours light is definitely do-able but do you give them only 6hours of darkness or (makes sense to me)18 darkness n 6 hrs light..? I know your experimenting,but doesn't mj NEED @least 12 darkness before it'll flower..or are u getting flowering plants by ONLY giving them 6straight hrs of dark.? Did you give a long dark period before starting flowering?..
By the way,I'm following this thread n think what your trying is gonna be good for everyones electricity bills if it's viable.!
Keep up the good work..
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Thanks man
These plants get 6 straight hours of 400watt mh light then 18 hrs of total darkness.
There is zero light leak and these plants are not tended to during the dark period.
So far i woul say that they are in fact budding and my other flower room at a different location will soon be switched to this same light cycle.
 
torontoke

torontoke

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Today my gf reported some major wilting going on that im hoping was the girls being hungry.
I talked her through mixing up a nice snack and hopefully it was lack of food bringing em down.
I will get her to take a bunch of pics tomorrow when she goes back in for another heavy watering
 
ISK

ISK

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torontoke said:
Today my gf reported some major wilting going on that im hoping was the girls being hungry.
I talked her through mixing up a nice snack and hopefully it was lack of food bringing em down.
I will get her to take a bunch of pics tomorrow when she goes back in for another heavy watering
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I hope she can keep your gals happy until you are back on your feet again...best of wishes and get well soon!
 
torontoke

torontoke

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So the plants seem to be requiring wayyyy more water than the last strain i ran in this cabinet under 12:12.
I always found that soil plants could typically go 2-3 days between water easily in a pinch however these seem to be needing water every 24 hrs.
I think the pots being so small is part of the issue,
Anyway fed them proper last night and i will try to get some updated pics tonight.

I really hope i am much more mobile next week my greenthumb is itchy.
 
torontoke

torontoke

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So as the first pic shows the plant up in the backcorner turned male and im glad i dragged my broken ass in to catch it.
The other plants seem to budding along nicely.
One thing id say tho is this light schedule isnt doing much for new foliar growth.
Perhaps they should have been vegged longer.

I am excited by the thought that these plants can and will flower under as little as 6 hrs so it definitely merits experimenting more with 7,8,9,10 hours to see how much yield is effected
 
torontoke

torontoke

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The shorter plants on the left side are shooting up through the screen.
All the main colas are producing tons of hairs and are really starting to stink.
Going to have to buy a real carbon scrubber for this cabinet the diy homemade one just isnt keeping up.
I have replaced the plants that turned male with chemdog clones.
Ghs takes alot of negative feedback on this site but im super impressed with whatever this plant really is whether its real chemdog or not. I wont run out and buy many different ghs strains however i wouldnt be as opposed to it as before trying this chem.
 
torontoke

torontoke

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To me too hot diggity
Makes me not want to think about the hundreds or thousands ive wasted on the extra hours of electricity over the last bunch of years.
I know most old school guys will never believe it and try anything other than 12/12 but im done with the old ways and couldnt be happier about all the money i will be saving on batteries in the near future.
 
Hot Diggity Sog

Hot Diggity Sog

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torontoke said:
To me too hot diggity
Makes me not want to think about the hundreds or thousands ive wasted on the extra hours of electricity over the last bunch of years.
I know most old school guys will never believe it and try anything other than 12/12 but im done with the old ways and couldnt be happier about all the money i will be saving on batteries in the near future.
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I hear ya. We still got a ways to go before any conclusions can be drawn though :)
 
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