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thenotsoesoteric

thenotsoesoteric

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Jack O'Neill said:
its really easy to pm each other about differences instead of dragging everyone else along.
reading it once or twice is enough...
its like work. theres people you dont like there, so just be nice and ignore them.
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It's hard to ignore people that attack you for no reason. Not one single other person had such a problem with my one idea. I even clearly stated that it was only a speculation and by no means an accusation. Just a stoned musing. Sorry but some people will not just roll over and take it.

I would love to be able to come here an share ideas and that's why I did come to this thread. I wanted to know about grape stomper mixes but instead I got Mr. Aggro assaulting my character, naw I don't play that. And perhaps I will take it up with bodhi and tell him I was very interested in his gear but after Mr. ignore list's attitude, I'm rather off put. Everything I've read of bodhi says he doesn't do business like that and would not appreciate the aggro attitude towards people that are potential buyers.
 
Jack O'Neill

Jack O'Neill

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thenotsoesoteric said:
It's hard to ignore people that attack you for no reason. Not one single other person had such a problem with my one idea. I even clearly stated that it was only a speculation and by no means an accusation. Just a stoned musing. Sorry but some people will not just roll over and take it.

I would love to be able to come here an share ideas and that's why I did come to this thread. I wanted to know about grape stomper mixes but instead I got Mr. Aggro assaulting my character, naw I don't play that. And perhaps I will take it up with bodhi and tell him I was very interested in his gear but after Mr. ignore list's attitude, I'm rather off put. Everything I've read of bodhi says he doesn't do business like that and would not appreciate the aggro attitude towards people that are potential buyers.
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just let it go... the bigger man always walks away and lives another day...
i've been called worse...
 
greenghost420

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Jack O'Neill said:
no... there tested for germination... please dont start with the polys again...
heres an example from cvs...
To create Flaming Cookies Cannaventure Seeds used the GSC “Forum” cut, and their Fire OG BX male. They found 3 legit keepers, 1 being an exact replica of the GSC mom, the second is a short and stockier pheno, which is the biggest yielder and has the loudest smell/taste. The flowers are GSC dom, dense with purple and lime green coloring. The third keeper pheno is short and stocky, with influence from the GSC mom as well as the Fire OG BX dad. The yield is below average to average but the quality is top shelf.

i wish more companies would state that there will be multiple phenos found in a pack....
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in every post that you defend them, your talking poly this poly that,but i cant ask i simple Q?

and that cvs description is on point.flaming cookies was indeed fire! still holding 2 moms.

sooooooooo if the polys are tested,cant you somewhat predict what youll get in 1-2 seedpacks? just answer this and no bullshitting...

and i thought they tested each release for stability, not just germ rates.
 
Jack O'Neill

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greenghost420 said:
sooooooooo if the polys are tested,cant you somewhat predict what youll get in 1-2 seedpacks? just answer this and no bullshitting...

and i thought they tested each release for stability, not just germ rates.
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damm i give up... im NOT affiliated with ggg... its a polyhybrid... there really isnt 3 phenos to be found. thats what THEY found. i would say about 8 or more phenos to be found in a pack.. a breeder doesnt have time to find them all....
i mean there cross it, with a cross... its writing on the package/description before you buy it. what more do you expect.. its common sense
please no more about polys...you've talked about this many times...
 
greenghost420

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im not a hater, im a customer. just to be clear, not the indirect shit like fake genuity spews, fuck you til im blue in the face.
 
akhiymjames

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With polyhybrids you can 1 pheno or you can have 10 it all depends on the genes. But there are some polyhybrids that are homogenous that wil produce uniformity in their offspring. I can def say breeders like Gage, Bodhi and SinCity do test their beans. There's no way they would put out gear not knowing any results of a cross if that would be the case all three of those breeders wouldn't be in business today. I've heard of many crosses that didn't meet the standards of those breeders and they weren't released. I have to agree with ghost that if testing is done you can somewhat predict how many phenos are showing up. That's why you see more than one person growing/testing the same strain usually cus you can't get good data if one person is testing. You can tell breeders do tests as some of them will label the number pheno they have like Gage's Cherry Puff male I think which has #80 next to it so testing does get done. I believe if a breeder says this amount of phenos to show it will be close to that number but as what Jack said these are polyhybrids and other phenos can show out of thousands of seeds made and never be seen again but there are some stability to these polyhybrids just depends on the breeder and how homogenous the parents used are
 
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Yodaweed

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akhiymjames said:
With polyhybrids you can 1 pheno or you can have 10 it all depends on the genes. But there are some polyhybrids that are homogenous that wil produce uniformity in their offspring. I can def say breeders like Gage, Bodhi and SinCity do test their beans. There's no way they would put out gear not knowing any results of a cross if that would be the case all three of those breeders wouldn't be in business today. I've heard of many crosses that didn't meet the standards of those breeders and they weren't released. I have to agree with ghost that if testing is done you can somewhat predict how many phenos are showing up. That's why you see more than one person rating the same strain usually cus you can't get good data if one person is testing. You can tell breeders do tests as some of them will label the number pheno they have like Gage's Cherry Puff male I think which has #80 next to it so testing does get done. I believe if a breeder says this amount of phenos to show it will be close to that number but as what Jack said these are polyhybrids and other phenos can show out of thousands of seeds made and never be seen again but there are some stability to these polyhybrids just depends on the breeder and how homogenous the parents used are
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I would have to disagree , breeders only talk about keeper phenotypes, they don't discuss how many non-keeper phenotypes they junked to get those keepers, trust me these polyhybrids have MANY phenotypes they don't use stable genetics to breed with and they don't back cross or work the lines for shit. There might be 20 phenotypes but 3 keepers and the breeder will say theres 3 different phenotypes and go into detail about the 3 keeper phenotypes.
 
akhiymjames

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Yodaweed said:
I would have to disagree , breeders only talk about keeper phenotypes, they don't discuss how many non-keeper phenotypes they junked to get those keepers, trust me these polyhybrids have MANY phenotypes they don't use stable genetics to breed with and they don't back cross or work the lines for shit. There might be 20 phenotypes but 3 keepers and the breeder will say theres 3 different phenotypes and go into detail about the 3 keeper phenotypes.
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I agree with you to a point not all breeders do that but believe me I know all about polyhybrids and how many phenos they can produce. Believe when I say I have seen breeders state that's all the phenos you will get in some polyhybrids. I'll find it when I have the time cus like I said there are some homogenous polyhybrids. Take Bodhi's SSDD there's many people who have grown it and every time someone reports on it they find the same phenos most of the time. Most want the butter muffin pheno and some get and some don't but most report consistent phenos. We can go on and on about polyhybrids but I know for a fact there are some homogenous polyhybrids out there
 
Yodaweed

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akhiymjames said:
I agree with you to a point not all breeders do that but believe me I know all about polyhybrids and how many phenos they can produce. Believe when I say I have seen breeders state that's all the phenos you will get in some polyhybrids. I'll find it when I have the time cus like I said there are some homogenous polyhybrids. Take Bodhi's SSDD there's many people who have grown it and every time someone reports on it they find the same phenos most of the time. Most want the butter muffin pheno and some get and some don't but most report consistent phenos. We can go on and on about polyhybrids but I know for a fact there are some homogenous polyhybrids out there
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If plants have homogenous traits they most likely have been selectively bred for those traits or one parent is extremely dominate. In my opinion those are no longer polyhybrids to me a polyhybrid means multiple crosses in both parents which make for lots of variation in offspring.
 
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