Mandatory minimums

[VIANARCHRIS]

I just heard on the radio the SCoC struck down the mandatory minimum for gun possession as unconstitutional. So goes MJ mandatory minimums?

OTTAWA - The Supreme Court of Canada has ruled that the Harper government's law requiring mandatory minimum sentences for gun crimes is unconstitutional.

By a 6-3 margin, the high court has upheld the 2013 Ontario Court of Appeal ruling that labelled the law cruel and unusual and struck it down.

The ruling is a setback for the government's tough-on-crime agenda.

More coming

 

[gb123]

ya beat me to it...reddits got some good shit eh..

 

[WHATFG]

Harptler just can't seem to get it right. He thought he was going to,change the way this country was run and on the surface he has....no wonder he hates the Trudeau's as much as he does....they be living rent free in his little head!

 

[rnr]

lol well if it didn't say MJ than its not in that argument lol
it said guns, but its a good step towards screwing harper us a bit more

 

[kDude]

..so hows this work?
that was part of the big BS omnibus bill wasn't it? so does that throw out all of the bill then or just that part? they couldn't vote on just certain parts, so how do they change only certain parts? (that be so bloody great to see that backfire on them like that - tried to stuff it all in, but one thing is wrong.. so it/they completely fail)

likely wishful thinking, i know

 

[ttystikk]

I just heard on the radio the SCoC struck down the mandatory minimum for gun possession as unconstitutional. So goes MJ mandatory minimums?

OTTAWA - The Supreme Court of Canada has ruled that the Harper government's law requiring mandatory minimum sentences for gun crimes is unconstitutional.

By a 6-3 margin, the high court has upheld the 2013 Ontario Court of Appeal ruling that labelled the law cruel and unusual and struck it down.

The ruling is a setback for the government's tough-on-crime agenda.

More coming

Sanity in sentencing, glad to hear it. With a thicket of mandatory minimum sentencing laws, what's the judge for, anyway?

 

[doingdishes]

..so hows this work?
that was part of the big BS omnibus bill wasn't it? so does that throw out all of the bill then or just that part? they couldn't vote on just certain parts, so how do they change only certain parts? (that be so bloody great to see that backfire on them like that - tried to stuff it all in, but one thing is wrong.. so it/they completely fail)

likely wishful thinking, i know

i think we get to pick it apart piece by piece because Harper wouldn't listen to the people. with all the push back, how can he say most Canadians support C51?

 

[cannadan]

its called delusional

 

[cannadan]

I just heard on the radio the SCoC struck down the mandatory minimum for gun possession as unconstitutional. So goes MJ mandatory minimums?

OTTAWA - The Supreme Court of Canada has ruled that the Harper government's law requiring mandatory minimum sentences for gun crimes is unconstitutional.

By a 6-3 margin, the high court has upheld the 2013 Ontario Court of Appeal ruling that labelled the law cruel and unusual and struck it down.

The ruling is a setback for the government's tough-on-crime agenda.

More coming

Know I may be wrong..... but this...."tough on crime shit"..... was the last elections big
deal......
so they are finally getting to court on this stuff.....after a whole term of ineffectual leadership..,..and actually accomplishing what??????? did they do anything at all....?????
What did they actually accomplish in order to justify the fact that they took a pay cheque.....each week......????
I'm am serious.......Harper.....and company......your.... FIRED.....we will have your belongings shipped to you....
and the two security guards will escort you to the door......
You can expect to be served....legal notice of the charges you will be brought up on....for your acts of bad will against your country.....and its people....
You will surrender your passports and other diplomatic papers... to ensure you are not able to run....or seek asylum elsewhere....
By order of the people of Canada

 

[gb123]

I like that kind of justice...

 

[bigmanc]

Where are the mandatory minimums for governing officials abusing there possition of authority?

Politicians should be held liable for ripping off and taking advantage of Canadian citizens. Finish there elected term + another full term behind bars in the worst conditions.

 

[cannadan]

how about two terms for those elected more than once.....
sorta like the indexed pension.....they receive....for completing two terms ....
fair is fair,,,,

 

[OLD MOTHER SATIVA]

how about two terms for those elected more than once.....
sorta like the indexed pension.....they receive....for completing two terms ....
fair is fair,,,,

unfortunately "fair"is not the way it works

they overturned the guns and not herb mandatory minumum?

...mmmm..not good at all.......[.and pathetic]

 

[gb123]

Looks good on him ...

http://www.ipolitics.ca/2015/04/15/judicial-activism-isnt-killing-harpers-crime-agenda-harper-is/

 

[VIANARCHRIS]

unfortunately "fair"is not the way it works

they overturned the guns and not herb mandatory minumum?

...mmmm..not good at all.......[.and pathetic]

The MJ mandatory minimums will be just as unconstitutional as the gun laws. The arguments used, basically that the punishment does not suit the crime, is the same no matter what the charge. The courts have said a judge needs to have the ability to judge a case on an individual basis. Someone with a huge grow and a dial-a-dope operation may be a candidate for the M.M., but ma & pa growing 10 plants beside their tomatoes for personal or even sale to a CC would not.

 

[gb123]

its called OVER KILL and worry about fall out afterwards.
It will still fill the jail system FULL which is the idea after all in Harper's mind. We need jails and Convicts so we'll just make up some new laws and GET some..

oh sorry...we changed that... to bad so sad eh!?!?!
It's only a few years and the rest of your life....suck it up!

Im not condoning violent morons who carry guns to commit crime.
Im yapppin about legal gun owners who are lazy or forget or die and leave their restricted shit to their family...

Our Supreme court of Canada wants them to fix.!!!!!!
.and just forced them to do just that!!
Our Government is the laziest bunch there ever was or will be...until they want something!!!

 

[R.Raider]

. Someone with a huge grow and a dial-a-dope operation may be a candidate for the M.M.

Even that's extreme for a first time charge.

 

[OLD MOTHER SATIVA]

The MJ mandatory minimums will be just as unconstitutional as the gun laws. The arguments used, basically that the punishment does not suit the crime, is the same no matter what the charge. The courts have said a judge needs to have the ability to judge a case on an individual basis. Someone with a huge grow and a dial-a-dope operation may be a candidate for the M.M., but ma & pa growing 10 plants beside their tomatoes for personal or even sale to a CC would not.

> it has already been used on people...i wish i was as optimistic..

.i mean its " only" a GUN...not the evil and dangerous schedule 1 weed

[think about the children]

 

[doingdishes]

> it has already been used on people...i wish i was as optimistic..

.i mean its " only" a GUN...not the evil and dangerous schedule 1 weed

[think about the children]

it's not like guns are dangerous to kids

 

[VIANARCHRIS]

> it has already been used on people...i wish i was as optimistic..

.i mean its " only" a GUN...not the evil and dangerous schedule 1 weed

[think about the children]

The gun law has been used as well. These guys just had the money and lawyer to challenge it. Those who have already been sentenced will appeal as will those sentence for pot. If mandatory sentencing for gun crime is unconstitutional and deemed cruel or excessive, the same would go for mj. Not what Harpshit wants to hear, but that is the reality. You have to remember, we will have legal rec weed in a few months under Trudeau and decrim under the NDP. Harper will bring in his version of decrim should he steal another election. The laws around marijuana are being discarded around the world...even a backwoods hick like Harper can't force his christian extremist propaganda on the population forever. The average age of his 'base' has got to be about 80.