My 8hr flowering experiment

[Gaz29]

Theres a pile of clones at my other room thats why these looked so lanky in the begining lol
To give the experiment a fair chance is the only reason i havent played with the timer.

Im excited they flowered and didnt herm or die so im optimistic about playing with the timer later and dialing in the maximum yield on total least amount of electric usage.
This isnt strictly about yield or i would just run a bunch critical or big bud like everyone else.

I know it's not strictly about yield ,but isn't the experiment abt successfully doing only 6hours of light AND getting close to the same product ,as you would expect with more light..?
Good work.! (following this with interest),as I'm definitely going to try it soon, but NOT made my mind up.! re: 6/10 hrs) yet ..

 

[USbeginnerguy]

No 6 on and 12 off does not equal 12/12, it equal 12/24. So they are completely different.

I hear you but i dont really agree because a day has 24 hrs which we both know but that is how i came up with it still being similar to 12/12 because its 6 on 12 off 6 on=24 or one day so its still getting 12 hours light and 12 hrs of dark. IMO the benefit is basically making the plant think its seeing more days because of more sunrise sunsets if you will and in essence it blooms faster? Not sure of the outcome but that's the only reasoning i can come up with. Im definitely down for some education if you feel differently have you tried this method and if so how did it work out for you and what benefits do see in this style of growing?

 

[thenotsoesoteric]

I hear you but i dont really agree because a day has 24 hrs which we both know but that is how i came up with it still being similar to 12/12 because its 6 on 12 off 6 on=24 or one day so its still getting 12 hours light and 12 hrs of dark. IMO the benefit is basically making the plant think its seeing more days because of more sunrise sunsets if you will and in essence it blooms faster? Not sure of the outcome but that's the only reasoning i can come up with. Im definitely down for some education if you feel differently have you tried this method and if so how did it work out for you and what benefits do see in this style of growing?

You basically play god and make the plant's day 18 hours and not 24. So that other 6 hours you're talking about is the next day and not hours 19,20,21,22,23,24. Cheers man.

 

[USbeginnerguy]

You basically play god and make the plant's day 18 hours and not 24. So that other 6 hours you're talking about is the next day and not hours 19,20,21,22,23,24. Cheers man.

Oh ok i got ya.

Sorry ToronToke didnt mean to detour the Journal Good Luck Dude

 

[ttystikk]

Interesting stuff. Leaving the timer alone through the whole run would give the most honest results.

I have a digital short cycle timer and I've thought about running twelve off and six to eight on- just never had the guts to try it, lol

I'm very interested to see what the extended dark cycle does for the plants.

Not that you're taking suggestions, but in your shoes I'd leave the timer untouched until the whole cycle is finished.

 

[torontoke]

Wouldnt 6 on 12 off still kind of be 12/12 just broken up differently, basically 6 on 12 off 6 on? Either way TORONTOKE keep us in the loop great work and good luck!

I would say the worst part of running a shedule that doesnt add up to a 24 hr day is that your on period would be floating so every other day the on period would be while electricity is most expensive.
Where i live the cost is almost double from 7am-6pm as it is from 6pm til 7am.

I will probably not touch the timer just to let this experiment run its course.

I dont mind people commenting or talking in this thread as long as it stays civil, im no fan of negative drama

 

[Hot Diggity Sog]

I would say the worst part of running a shedule that doesnt add up to a 24 hr day is that your on period would be floating so every other day the on period would be while electricity is most expensive.
Where i live the cost is almost double from 7am-6pm as it is from 6pm til 7am.

I will probably not touch the timer just to let this experiment run its course.

I dont mind people commenting or talking in this thread as long as it stays civil, im no fan of negative drama

That's a good point. Kwh cost is certainly much higher during normal people hours.

 

[ttystikk]

That's a good point. Kwh cost is certainly much higher during normal people hours.

Not here, strangely. I expected to be able to find differences in rates based on time of day but they won't charge private customers like that- here being Colorado.

They DO have a demand rate, which encourages consistent energy consumption; you're charged your peak usage over the course of a month's billing cycle, but a lower base rate. As soon as I'm on my flip schedule again, I'm on this.

 

[WattSaver]

Just read through this whole thread. And thank you for running the experiment. I've played around with the flip time a bunch. I now go 11.5/12.5 at flip which trips flowering quicker than 12/12 especially the sativa dom strains. I've also gone 10/14 for a whole grow and couldn't really see any discernible difference, but my brain keeps going back to more light = more growth. And I think dropping an hr of light during the flower helps the maturing process. I'll be watching to see how it turns out. I have hope in the process, but still really skeptical. But I'll wait and see.

 

[torontoke]

 

[torontoke]

Starting to finally get a lil sugar coating on everything now.
Still not filling out as much as id like but theres still alot of time so hopefully they fatten up

 

[vitamin_green_inc]

Interesting experiment. If the yield is less but flower time is cut down-it might equal out.

I just want to say that a recently read a "Anarchy," book, that would be considered a no-no by today's governemt. Anyway, the book was mostly about survival in a post-apolytic world. MJ and cannabis growing was in the drug section. Pretty interesting read, and it's from the 80s lol.
Anyway, this passage was relevant to this test becuase it mention seeds getting flushed into the New York City Sewer systems. Apparently weed, grows so much down there that they have to go in and cut it or else it will block certain tunnels,pipes, drainage etc.
the author says the plants are nearly white in color due to their lack of sunlight but they live full cycles down there. This was back in the 80s...I can't imagine how many MJ plants there are now!

 

[ttystikk]

Interesting experiment. If the yield is less but flower time is cut down-it might equal out.

I just want to say that a recently read a "Anarchy," book, that would be considered a no-no by today's governemt. Anyway, the book was mostly about survival in a post-apolytic world. MJ and cannabis growing was in the drug section. Pretty interesting read, and it's from the 80s lol.
Anyway, this passage was relevant to this test becuase it mention seeds getting flushed into the New York City Sewer systems. Apparently weed, grows so much down there that they have to go in and cut it or else it will block certain tunnels,pipes, drainage etc.
the author says the plants are nearly white in color due to their lack of sunlight but they live full cycles down there. This was back in the 80s...I can't imagine how many MJ plants there are now!

I find this a bit hard to believe, it sounds like urban mythology. I'd like to see some corroborating evidence supporting this story.

 

[vitamin_green_inc]

Lol yeah it does sound cool though huh. I can't find anything but Urban Legends so who knows

 

[Amos Otis]

Very late to the party here - thanks for the heads up tt.

I'm somewhat burnt out from most things RIU, but catching up, this is a very interesting read. Props to you for the efforts, and for thinking outside your own stash jars.

Which strain was the 2nd male? So sorry that the ss/ pc beans haven't given you a girl.

 

[torontoke]

It was a ss had tucked away in the back of my cab that i forgot to get rid of that turned male.
Its too bad to cus those ss plants were nice.

Thinking i might look into breeding one of these days
Maybe that will be my next experiment.

Thanks again everyone for the kind words, it makes it worthwhile feeling like im actually doing something positive and not just wasting my time.

 

[Benelli]

First off...HAPPY 420!

I read that article as well and it was tough to fathom. So I was pretty jacked up to see this thread. Just read through it all. Keep it up and subbed!

 

[torontoke]

First off...HAPPY 420!

I read that article as well and it was tough to fathom. So I was pretty jacked up to see this thread. Just read through it all. Keep it up and subbed!

Thanks!
Happy 420 to everyone
Glad to have another person interested.

 

[makka]

Still watching good work looking good

 

[NewtoMJ]

Thanks!
Happy 420 to everyone
Glad to have another person interested.

I read Joe P' s article also, it got me thinking a lot of people say dutch growers use less light in flower, what if less than 12 on is the magic formula to getting the breeder times that most of us find a little ambitious?