Problem with CAP Ebb & Gro

[UncleBuck]

i would let my cat swim around in there and eat the roots.

cats love water.

 

[AlphaPhase]

lol wtf is that creature?!

I haven't tried this yet, but my next grow I will be giving it a shot.. I'm going to veg in 2 gallon smart pots and when it's time to flower the plants I'm just going to put the smart pot in the ebb bucket system. The smart pot should keep the roots contained/ air pruned.. That's my theory anyway.

 

[personal lux]

Take a peice of construction fabric, same stuff air pots, smart pots, root pots whatever you want to call them are made out of, and put a peice down to the bottom of the pots. Will not only fix your problem but will also force the roots to grow more veins.

 

[personal lux]

lol wtf is that creature?!

I haven't tried this yet, but my next grow I will be giving it a shot.. I'm going to veg in 2 gallon smart pots and when it's time to flower the plants I'm just going to put the smart pot in the ebb bucket system. The smart pot should keep the roots contained/ air pruned.. That's my theory anyway.

That is a baby hippo lol

 

[Red1966]

lol wtf is that creature?!

I haven't tried this yet, but my next grow I will be giving it a shot.. I'm going to veg in 2 gallon smart pots and when it's time to flower the plants I'm just going to put the smart pot in the ebb bucket system. The smart pot should keep the roots contained/ air pruned.. That's my theory anyway.

I have some 3 gal. smart pots, but they're too big to fit inside the buckets. Will the 2 gal. fit?

Take a peice of construction fabric, same stuff air pots, smart pots, root pots whatever you want to call them are made out of, and put a peice down to the bottom of the pots. Will not only fix your problem but will also force the roots to grow more veins.

Have you actually tried this? I thought those pots worked by "air pruning" the roots. Seems the interior of the buckets stays near 100% humidity

 

[personal lux]

I have some 3 gal. smart pots, but they're too big to fit inside the buckets. Will the 2 gal. fit?

Have you actually tried this? I thought those pots worked by "air pruning" the roots. Seems the interior of the buckets stays near 100% humidity

Yes sir i have. i put a small square in the bottom of each of my titan ebb and flow system buckets. Only when the roots begin to reach the bottom on the bucket. Stops them from going into the tubes was my main concern. But ive not done a side by side to say if it 100% is causing them to grow more veins but o do believe so.

 

[personal lux]

And i mean put the fabric outside of the net pot in the bottom by the irrigation pipe, not inside the net pot. Just to clarify.

 

[AlphaPhase]

2 gallon smart pots fit just about perfect, one inch below the top and about 1/4" gap around the sides

 

[Red1966]

Thanks to both of you. These seem to be viable options.. I have a disc of roots that have completely filled the void between the inner and outer pots. I suppose I could cut small pieces of the fabric and put it over the ends of the drain lines without destroying too much of the roots.

 

[personal lux]

Thanks to both of you. These seem to be viable options.. I have a disc of roots that have completely filled the void between the inner and outer pots. I suppose I could cut small pieces of the fabric and put it over the ends of the drain lines without destroying too much of the roots.

that may not work, they will grow surrounding the fabric id assumr. Gotta put it above the drain whole , also stops them from sitting in the stagnant water between cycles.

 

[Red1966]

that may not work, they will grow surrounding the fabric id assumr. Gotta put it above the drain whole , also stops them from sitting in the stagnant water between cycles.

Maybe I could purchase a slightly larger than 2-gal. and place it between the two buckets? What do you call that material? The smart/air pots I have are the plastic kind with holes all over in them. Maybe I'll take an inner bucket to the grow shop and see if one fits.

 

[personal lux]

Maybe I could purchase a slightly larger than 2-gal. and place it between the two buckets? What do you call that material? The smart/air pots I have are the plastic kind with holes all over in them. Maybe I'll take an inner bucket to the grow shop and see if one fits.

most pots are made out of simple construction fabric from menards, home depot, etc.

 

[AlphaPhase]

I have the active aqua 2 gallon ebb n grow buckets, I did the same thing you are thinking about doing and brought the inner bucket in to match up to the smart pot.

 

[Red1966]

I have the active aqua 2 gallon ebb n grow buckets, I did the same thing you are thinking about doing and brought the inner bucket in to match up to the smart pot.

Have you finished a grow with them? The guy at the local hydrostore said he didn't think smart pots will stop roots if there isn't sufficient air/light.

 

[AlphaPhase]

I haven't tried it yet, but I will be very soon. I just moved and my flowering plants didn't take the trip well so I will be starting a new grow in a week or so using the smart pots. Worst case scenario, really tiny roots will grow tthrough (much like the tiny rootsthat grow through when the smart pot is sitting on the ground. Nothing major I'd imagine. There should be enough light to stop most roots in veg and in flower the roots grow much less, so we'll see and I'll let you know.

 

[Red1966]

I haven't tried it yet, but I will be very soon. I just moved and my flowering plants didn't take the trip well so I will be starting a new grow in a week or so using the smart pots. Worst case scenario, really tiny roots will grow tthrough (much like the tiny rootsthat grow through when the smart pot is sitting on the ground. Nothing major I'd imagine. There should be enough light to stop most roots in veg and in flower the roots grow much less, so we'll see and I'll let you know.

Send me a PM. I'm 3 weeks to harvest myself, so you may not be able to tell before I start the next crop.

 

[TWS]

I use smart pots in my system to keep the perlite out of the system . They did grow thru the smart pots but not enough to plug the lines . cleaning the smart pots was quit a little chore but doable. I think eventually I will just use the same fabric but only place a small circular piece the size of the bottom of the pot that is disposable.

 

[AlphaPhase]

Good to know tws

 

[max420thc]

increase the size of the lines to three quarter inch to start with, this will keep them from clogging,
CLEAN the lines with hot water and bend and twist the tubes to break up anything in the lines and purge them with hot water after every grow ,soak them in h2o2, before hand,
Install clean outs at the end of every row of buckets so when you are doing your trimming and training just drag the hose with you and blow them clean every once in awhile,
I had to take back around a dozen capp control buckets,to get three that work,

 

[max420thc]

this picture is of a control timer system using good quality everything it will control as many as four control buckets at one time,you can make them to control as many buckets as you want,
if you ever want to make one let me know ill tell you how to do it,