l.e.ds vs hps

REALSTYLES

REALSTYLES

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HydroRed said:
For every 1 video I see about how awesome led is, I see 10 showing HPS trumping an led system. Just to clarify about my previous post, I had the 400W hood/ballast for 17 yrs...not the bulb. I can however show proof of my grows and what I get with HPS and have yet to see anyone personally grow anything better or heavier with led's. This is just one of 8. All bud-no scrubs. And I have a fraction of what a "good" led system cost in my hps setup. If it aint broke -dont fix it? And yes werm11 free heat lol. It may seem funny but its true. I dont have to run heaters at all when I'm in veg and only 12 hrs a day when in flower. Savings are savings no matter how you look at it. Might not be suitable for everyone else, but it works great for me.View attachment 3398748
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I didn't know this was a who's dick is bigger contest

china lights Mars grow

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and the diy hps killers
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I won
 
gweddo6868

gweddo6868

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REALSTYLES said:
Maybe the guy doesn't know how to grow because I've smoke shitty hps bud from a guy who got clones from me go figure.
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That's not nice realstyles and I never said anybody in this forum maybe don't know how to grow. Shame on u,church said himself if its not DIY it's not worth it so. So now because I don't make my own lights I'm not cool like u and a bigger dick contest really wow keep it classy
 
gweddo6868

gweddo6868

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A privilege for rich hahaha ur awesome realstyles ur the money man don't let nobody tell u different master grower that never smoked bud from under a hps sat back stoned as fuck loving it
 
Rahz

Rahz

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As I was saying in another thread you can only throw down so much light on a plant before it has negative results. This can be accomplished with HPS or LED. LED does cost more up front, but at current efficiency it basically breaks even over 5 years. In the next couple years as new emitters are introduced the overall cost -vs- time will swing towards LED.

So light intensity, and penetration isn't going to be an issue in the near future. The only thing that will be left is quality of light. 1500 PPFD of HPS or HPS/CMH -vs- 1500 PPFD of LED is what it will come down to. It's a good bet that LED will come out on top, with energy savings to boot. This kind of testing hasn't been done as far as I know, but would represent the fairest comparison between the two.
 
gweddo6868

gweddo6868

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Rahz said:
As I was saying in another thread you can only throw down so much light on a plant before it has negative results. This can be accomplished with HPS or LED. LED does cost more up front, but at current efficiency it basically breaks even over 5 years. In the next couple years as new emitters are introduced the overall cost -vs- time will swing towards LED.

So light intensity, and penetration isn't going to be an issue in the near future. The only thing that will be left is quality of light. 1500 PPFD of HPS or HPS/CMH -vs- 1500 PPFD of LED is what it will come down to. It's a good bet that LED will come out on top, with energy savings to boot. This kind of testing hasn't been done as far as I know, but would represent the fairest comparison between the two.
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Good answer is all I can say because money man said it's for the rich
 
a mongo frog

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Rahz said:
As I was saying in another thread you can only throw down so much light on a plant before it has negative results. This can be accomplished with HPS or LED. LED does cost more up front, but at current efficiency it basically breaks even over 5 years. In the next couple years as new emitters are introduced the overall cost -vs- time will swing towards LED.

So light intensity, and penetration isn't going to be an issue in the near future. The only thing that will be left is quality of light. 1500 PPFD of HPS or HPS/CMH -vs- 1500 PPFD of LED is what it will come down to. It's a good bet that LED will come out on top, with energy savings to boot. This kind of testing hasn't been done as far as I know, but would represent the fairest comparison between the two.
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And don't forget about comparing strains. A huge part in this discussion thats not even talked about.
 
REALSTYLES

REALSTYLES

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gweddo6868 said:
That's not nice realstyles and I never said anybody in this forum maybe don't know how to grow. Shame on u,church said himself if its not DIY it's not worth it so. So now because I don't make my own lights I'm not cool like u and a bigger dick contest really wow keep it classy
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First off it wasn't directed towards you and when I say growing is a privilege some people can't even buy hps or mh bulbs or ven better yet get the right equipment that they need REAL talk.
 
gweddo6868

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a mongo frog said:
And don't forget about comparing strains. A huge part in this discussion thats not even talked about.
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Strains, phenos, way it is grown was covered. And I asked church time in vegg, pulls a year with no answer and he choose not to say in the beginning what was what with what he did. And realstyles o I'm sorry money man sound better I hope them are u pictures u are showing us.
 
gweddo6868

gweddo6868

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Ok real talk from big money quoted what I said talk in about dude might not know how to grow. And what difference does it make to say what people can and can not afford I can assure u its not yours to make and then mondo and church support u by saying they like it he literally degraded everybody with that statement. Except for big money of course
 
a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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gweddo6868 said:
Strains, phenos, way it is grown was covered. And I asked church time in vegg, pulls a year with no answer and he choose not to say in the beginning what was what with what he did. And realstyles o I'm sorry money man sound better I hope them are u pictures u are showing us.
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Your not being very kind like you asked of @REALSTYLES.
 
REALSTYLES

REALSTYLES

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gweddo6868 said:
Strains, phenos, way it is grown was covered. And I asked church time in vegg, pulls a year with no answer and he choose not to say in the beginning what was what with what he did. And realstyles o I'm sorry money man sound better I hope them are u pictures u are showing us.
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nice try man gonna have to show you because you don't know who I am and I'm glad I got your attention get ready.

@a mongo frog thought he was mad get ready for the show lol I'll be nice I'll just post a pic showing him this is my grow hahahaha
 
a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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REALSTYLES said:
nice try man gonna have to show you because you don't know who I am and I'm glad I got your attention get ready.

@a mongo frog thought he was mad get ready for the show lol I'll be nice I'll just post a pic showing him this is my grow hahahaha
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just consider me if you guys need an investor on the ice cream buy in.....
 
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churchhaze

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Sorry for the delay, I was busy trimming weed and measuring for you...

From a different setup I have, ~240W of vero 29 in a 2'x4' wooden box, 227g totally dry + 70g I just picked fresh (secondary harvest about a week later) and I felt like that grow didn't live up to my expectations.

The grow you saw under the 240W of vero 18 in a 2'x4' tent was never measured, but the yield completely filled a 7"x8"14" amazon box. THAT one was well beyond my expectations, but since I do not sell, I usually do not measure my harvests.

It's all c99 from female seeds so you can determine for yourself how many pulls I get a year.

If you ask me any more general yield questions, the answer will be "a pound".
 
bicit

bicit

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LED's suck. Especially the vero series. Don't buy any. (I swear I'm not just saying this so I can buy them all...)
 
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