churchhaze
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Nitrate salts are organic. You should use nitrate salts in an inert media. It don't get much more organic than that!!
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Need some help choosing an organic method.
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SCorganictroth831
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Ok i am going to do that. I heard that bubbling ewc can actually remove
SCorganictroth831
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Chloromine but i dont know about that for sure.
hydroMD
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Chloramine, like chlorine, can be removed by boiling and aging. However, time required to remove chloramine is much longer than that of chlorine. The time required to remove half of the chloramine (half-life) from 10 gallons of water by boiling is 26.6 hours, whereas the half-life of free chlorine in boiling 10 gallons of water is only 1.8 hours.
This means 5 days into bubbling you will still have higher than 3% chloramine which will kill your bennies.
Trust me, your gonna wanna filter
Source:
http://hbd.org/ajdelange/Brewing_articles/BT_Chlorine.pdf
Pattahabi
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Or throw a little something in the water to neutralize the chloramine.Chloramine, like chlorine, can be removed by boiling and aging. However, time required to remove chloramine is much longer than that of chlorine. The time required to remove half of the chloramine (half-life) from 10 gallons of water by boiling is 26.6 hours, whereas the half-life of free chlorine in boiling 10 gallons of water is only 1.8 hours.
This means 5 days into bubbling you will still have higher than 3% chloramine which will kill your bennies.
Trust me, your gonna wanna filter
Source:
http://hbd.org/ajdelange/Brewing_articles/BT_Chlorine.pdf
Pretty sure MM (Tim Wilson) disproved the bubble size theory. Not all anaerobic bacteria are harmful. Check out theunconventionalfarmer.com.Just a tid bit... tap, well, and spring water are a no go for organics... as well as the fact that aerobic bacteria is what your after, 24 hours of a non aerated soak is going to allow anerobic bacteria to get the upper hand, (bacteria multiply every 20 seconds or so) s providing the acceptable conditions for the microbes you want are very Important.
Id suggest adding an air stone that provides bubbles no less than 1mm in diamteter as this will also hinder fungal growth. (Fungus spores are very fragile and too small of air bubbles will literally shred them Apart
hope someone finds this useful.
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Pattahabi
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Vegan? This is mother nature, what part of nature is vegan? Vegamatrix is yet another scam by Kyle Kushman.
Looks trustworthy huh?!
LOL!
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personal lux
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What part of nature is vegan....okay. you do realize vegan is just organic without the poop right? His stuff is 99% organic and almost completely micronized. he worked with Canna to produce his line...im sure hes such a scammer...idk what to say to you even lol
Pattahabi
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What about Earth Worm Castings? You don't use any of those in veganics? Crab meal? Oyster shell? Fish meal? etc, etc. Canna... just give your wallet to the hydrostore clerk.
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personal lux
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No he doesnt. Look into it. Its plant derived. no animal derived products...im not gonna argue about the price of nutrients and buying stuff feom hydro stores with you lol
Pattahabi
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He doesn't use any worm castings? So no FFOF, roots organic, etc?
Just curious,
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personal lux
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He has his own nutrients aka vegamatrix. Has tested his end product and has basically 0 heavy metals aswell. none of the bottled organics are more than 60-70% organic. I believe he allows small amounts ow EWC in his soilless but thats it
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Pattahabi
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Can I see the reports on his final product? I've read enough of this jokers explanations to know he's a total scam artist salesman. Does he use any volcanic rock aeration of any kind (perlite, pumice, lava rock, etc)? Rock dusts; azomite, basalt, glacial rock dust? Kelp meal? Cause they all have substantial amounts of metals. Heavy metals don't equal non-veganic products.
WHAT?! Not less then 60-70 percent organic?! So it's 30-40% synthetic?
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personal lux
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He has lab reports go to kylekusbman.com and check out what you can find. There is a forum board of people specifically doing so. He uses soft rock phosphates and kelp means yes.
personal lux
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Yes most bottled organics are almost 50% syntheticCan I see the reports on his final product? I've read enough of this jokers explanations to know he's a total scam artist salesman. Does he use any volcanic rock aeration of any kind (perlite, pumice, lava rock, etc)? Rock dusts; azomite, basalt, glacial rock dust? Kelp meal? Cause they all have substantial amounts of metals. Heavy metals don't equal non-veganic products.
WHAT?! Not less then 60-70 percent organic?! So it's 30-40% synthetic?
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Pattahabi
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I think I pretty much rest my case with that. We're not going to use EWC cause they're animals, but we can use synthetic bottled nutrients. Anyone else see a problem with this?
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Nursejanna
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Following. I'm just about to flip my first ever organic girls to flower. Initially put them in a soil comprised of FFOF, perlite, ewc, bat guano, and Mykos, and haven't needed to amend at all so far! Was advised to buy liquid bone meal, jamaican bat guano, plus some some Humboldt nutes for flower...thoughts? Another grower recommended Budswell tea +calmag. This is for indoor white widow. Any resources explaining the schedule for flower feeding would be helpful. I feel like I'm going in blind. Thanks!
personal lux
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Vegamatrix is 99% organic though. Im saying bottled like general organics, biobizz, soul synthetic they are the 50% synthetics
Pattahabi
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Maybe Kyle needs to do a little more reading?
There are some different methods of producing soft rock phosphate. AFAIK (as far as I know) almost all SRP contains a certain amount of polonium 210, a radio-active substance, as does virtually all manufactured phosphorus fertilizers. I started a thread on this a year or so ago and Spurr followed up on some research. Some of this contributed to the ‘phosphorus myth’. There is a thread in the Cannabis Botany forum and the thread I started is in the Indoor Grows – Hydro forum.
When I have more time I’ll track down some of the literature I cited.
I use SRP much more sparingly than previously and it is a good idea to find out where your SRP comes from and ask for heavy metal test results. AFAIK there are sources of SRP which are strictly mined while others are a byproduct of the phosphorus fertilizer industry.
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Also from MM:
Consider this optional. In the past few years (its 2014) I’ve become more aware of the possibility of polonium 210 and lead content in soft rock phosphate which is radioactive. This varies depending on how it was mined and where. If you wish to use this in ACT check all available data. Look for heavy metal testing.
Peace!
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personal lux
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so did you miss the part where i said he has test proving virtually no heavy metals?
Pattahabi
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I'm waiting for the proof...so did you miss the part where i said he has test proving virtually no heavy metals?
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