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l.e.ds vs hps

REALSTYLES

REALSTYLES

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patrickkawi37 said:
9 zones from a 4x4 area Is an epic fail in my honest opinion . By hobbyist I mean your not supplying any dispensaries. your only growing meds for you
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That sir was and experiment no co2 and a cheap one part nute Epsom salt and molasses that's it. I use to grow for a dispensary and had over 20+ lights but it's a shame I can't show any pics because my camera was lost in the car accident I had 3-4-2014 coming from the grow.
 
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churchhaze

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The truth is that Sativied is impressed by my grows, but is way too defensive to admit it. His grows are pretty good too, and he's told me he wants to slowly switch over to LED as well, but because he's made such a public shit fit, he's afraid of what people will say when he finally converts to DIY led.

He wanted to get Philips brand cobs for no other reason than cree and bridgelux are too popular, and he wants to do something more original. It sort of gives you an idea of how he really thinks. Rather than try to copy proven results, he would prefer to talk about experimenting with an untested product. When others experiment, they're "pretenders".
 
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patrickkawi37

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REALSTYLES said:
The plant was 4x4 one plant not plants I don't see how it's a epic fail
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REALSTYLES said:
That sir was and experiment no co2 and a cheap one part nute Epsom salt and molasses that's it. I use to grow for a dispensary and had over 20+ lights but it's a shame I can't show any pics because my camera was lost in the car accident I had 3-4-2014 coming from the grow.
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I believe you . And since you did 20
Lights you know what is capable of a 4x4 area. This is why I said a fail. Because I see a 4x4 space
As 2 pounds, not 9 ounces.
 
Sativied

Sativied

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churchhaze said:
The truth is that Sativied is impressed by my grows, but is way too defensive to admit it.
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:shock: Can you really get any more pretentious and delusional... you seem to post a lot about what Sativied thinks, and now you prefix it with 'the truth"... You should join a real church church. I have never even seen growS from you bullshitter. Just one typical beginner grow that turned out relatively nice. "Impressing" me takes a little more than that absurd troll.

You really went full retard man, that you can fool yourself so easily is already astounding as I'm usually not such a bad judge of character but you are one special motherfucker lol... Dream on.
 
REALSTYLES

REALSTYLES

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Sativied said:
:shock: Can you really get any more pretentious and delusional... you seem to post a lot about what Sativied thinks, and now you prefix it with 'the truth"... You should join a real church church. I have never even seen growS from you bullshitter. Just one typical beginner grow that turned out relatively nice. "Impressing" me takes a little more than that absurd troll.

You really went full retard man, that you can fool yourself so easily is already astounding as I'm usually not such a bad judge of character but you are one special motherfucker lol... Dream on.
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cobs are really better I use to grow hps I don't have to lie. I wish you'd have seen what I can do with hps and if I say it's better it is. give it a try and you'll see. It's like finding Jesus lol
 
Sativied

Sativied

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patrickkawi37 said:
9 zones from a 4x4 area Is an epic fail in my honest opinion.
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Indeed. I told the led church here many times that space is a given and what one pulls from that given space 5-6 times a year is what matters. If you grow with low intensity by spreading light out you get more GPW yes.... LED growers increase the GPW by lowering W, not by increasing the G. It's all a fucking joke...
 
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churchhaze

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You can also get great g/sqft. He's lying. I get great g/W and great g/sqft. He's just making shit up. I could increase my g/sqft even more by adding more light and still have very good g/W.

I know you think you're extremely clever with this argument because you keep repeating it... but it's actually pretty stupid. Knock out yields for a 2'x4'. Joke's on you because I actually have a total footprint of 4'x'6 producing very good g/sqft.. That's 50% more producing area than you at similar g/sqft. I actually produce more.

Edit: And that 4'x6' flowering footprint uses a 40W veg lamp for all vegging/clones. baaaaamm.
 
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a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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patrickkawi37 said:
To be perfectly honest with you.. I don't run a 4x4 spread because I have a hard time getting my 2 p average per light. Specially with og. I know people that do use this footprint and make it happen. But I use 5x6 for raptors and 5x7 for adjusta wings
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So you are running over a 3 week veg on your og's? Only reason I'm asking is cuz i would love to get those numbers on my fire og cut. Im a little over 1 3/4 per lamp right now and i can't seem to get over that. Im running a 21 day veg in 6 inch pots and going straight into 10's on Flowering day.
 
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