nitrogen def?

miketaco

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so as i was reading around and it seems to be the classic yellowing on the edge of the leaf to the inside,, starting on the bottom tier of the colas very.. very slowly making its way to another and some slight burnt nuets tips on newer growth not even bit just a tiny pin,,, maby from the soil.,, mircal grow potting mix (had to go cheap sry :(,,) swim been using rain water and tap water that sits open lid no nuets until now fox farm trio nuets was used just now for first time(it was deluded)
tops are nice and green,,do yall think they should be fine or problems coming down the road,,vegging since april and have been topped and trained for scroging there looking like monsters
 
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max420thc

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Miracle grow? It is very hard for a marijuana plant to get nitrogen deff, time released soil will drive ph down in the soil, You should always mix in garden lime to any soil you use, synthetic nutes have a tendency to drive PH down in soil, try testing your run off,, pour fresh PH balanced water into the pot catch some of the run off and test the PH, I would guess your ph is to low ,If you are feeding along with the time released soil do so very conservatively, maybe at half strength, top dress with garden lime and put some in your water and pour it through the soil also,
Next time stay away from time released pre fertilized soil and ALWAYS add garden lime to any soil ,,let me say it again incase you missed it,,ANY SOIL you use.
 

miketaco

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Miracle grow? It is very hard for a marijuana plant to get nitrogen deff, time released soil will drive ph down in the soil, You should always mix in garden lime to any soil you use, synthetic nutes have a tendency to drive PH down in soil, try testing your run off,, pour fresh PH balanced water into the pot catch some of the run off and test the PH, I would guess your ph is to low ,If you are feeding along with the time released soil do so very conservatively, maybe at half strength, top dress with garden lime and put some in your water and pour it through the soil also,
Next time stay away from time released pre fertilized soil and ALWAYS add garden lime to any soil ,,let me say it again incase you missed it,,ANY SOIL you use.

thank you for great advice yea i always use fox farm ocean forest and i couldn't find any localy this year so i was quick to grab a bag of something to get the thing started...ive never had problems like these with my other soil mixes so ive never really had the need to check ph and stuff ill get a meter and test...i wouldn't recommend mircal grow...or not any with the ferts in em
 

max420thc

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thank you for great advice yea i always use fox farm ocean forest and i couldn't find any localy this year so i was quick to grab a bag of something to get the thing started...ive never had problems like these with my other soil mixes so ive never really had the need to check ph and stuff ill get a meter and test...i wouldn't recommend mircal grow...or not any with the ferts in em
garden lime is around 5 bucks for a fifty pound bag and it only takes a couple of table spoons in a cubic foot of soil,
even guys who use fox farms soils should still put garden lime in it, always,
they even make bad batch's where the ph will get out of hand,
 

Rolando Mendoza

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Mix micro first, then grow and last bloom. Lower nutes ratio. Maybe try 3/4? Flush if you are going to change your mind. Flush with 3* much water as soil. I think it's nute burn, or nutrient lockout if the nutes are really there and exact ratio is good, then it's the miracle grow. I now it's miracle grow too. Tray from that stuff. I rather use my backyard soil extra flushed and decontaminated than miracle grow. It can cause all types of problems that you would have to fix and spend money on. So waiting for good soil is a way better option. Do as the guy before me said, buy lime and some perlite.
 

miketaco

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garden lime is around 5 bucks for a fifty pound bag and it only takes a couple of table spoons in a cubic foot of soil,
even guys who use fox farms soils should still put garden lime in it, always,
they even make bad batch's where the ph will get out of hand,
great input and thank you...i have had fox farm burn seedlings one time and didnt know why and now i know how to cure this problem.... i guess i should of read around a lil more..ill get right on it
 

Sunny Organics

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honestly bro, miracle products are the worst you can buy, straight up. just a bunch of problems that it comes with, most of the times it kills your plants. about the lime, if youre using cal-mg the lime isnt really needed. if youre making your own soil from scratch well yeah lime is a must...but so is cal-mg if youre using synthetic nutes. im pretty sure youre starting to burn your plants with your miracle soil that has all this chemical ferts in it plus your your base nutes that youre using. some pictures would be nice. goodluck man. :weed:
 

miketaco

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honestly bro, miracle products are the worst you can buy, straight up. just a bunch of problems that it comes with, most of the times it kills your plants. about the lime, if youre using cal-mg the lime isnt really needed. if youre making your own soil from scratch well yeah lime is a must...but so is cal-mg if youre using synthetic nutes. im pretty sure youre starting to burn your plants with your miracle soil that has all this chemical ferts in it plus your your base nutes that youre using. some pictures would be nice. goodluck man. :weed:

ty for input ...i haven't used the nutes but once there looking fine just the bottom tier leafs were yellowing and was creeping up its way to another ...i also wasent being smart about my soils but my mix was with lil pearlite and vermiculite and was broke after many investments in equipment and beans the wait next time would be worth the wait and to add these componets to the mix..

ive been flushing with the rain water im switching over to flower mode one was showing signs of female and there just the right size id like em to be at...

i made a ghetto scrog consist of the garden wire ties will see how that works out i removed some the leafs under that were yelloing and drooping but its barley been done...

sry for no pics i dunno how i feel bout doing all that sry cause i know that would help alot..ill see what i could do....

but i read around and seen a nice guild lines and good advice from peoples ty again,, as to what it seems to be the problem imma kick back and let em do there thing(gunna add the lime).... ill make sure to update as they come along i got some nice clones from em that are doing well they will be used to make seeds i got some spray in..hope it works!
 
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