l.e.ds vs hps

Darth Vapour

Darth Vapour

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You need min 40 watt for perfect growth

here is copy n paste from LED site

here is link check it out

http://www.ledgrowlightsdepot.com/blogs/blog/16326275-how-many-led-watts-are-required-per-square-foot-of-grow-space


ASSUMING 1.0 SQ FT/PLANT
# of PlantsSquare Feet Recommended LED Wattage*
2280
44160
66240
88320
1010400




ASSUMING 1.5 SQ FT/PLANT
# of PlantsSquare Feet Recommended LED Wattage*
23120
46240
69360
812480
1015600




ASSUMING 2.0 SQ FT/PLANT
# of PlantsSquare Feet Recommended LED Wattage*
24160
48320
612480
816640
1020800




Recommended LED wattage* for high light plants (assuming 40 watts/square foot)

1 x 1: 40 watts

2 x 2: 160 watts

3 x 3: 360 watts

4 x 4: 640 watts

5 x 5: 1000 watts

with that said plants look nice here let me look for my seed runs going to surprise you what 18 watts of sunblaster does then 36 watts does give me a few mins need to find them in my files :)
 
REALSTYLES

REALSTYLES

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Darth Vapour said:
You need min 40 watt for perfect growth

here is copy n paste from LED site

here is link check it out

http://www.ledgrowlightsdepot.com/blogs/blog/16326275-how-many-led-watts-are-required-per-square-foot-of-grow-space


ASSUMING 1.0 SQ FT/PLANT
# of PlantsSquare Feet Recommended LED Wattage*
2280
44160
66240
88320
1010400




ASSUMING 1.5 SQ FT/PLANT
# of PlantsSquare Feet Recommended LED Wattage*
23120
46240
69360
812480
1015600




ASSUMING 2.0 SQ FT/PLANT
# of PlantsSquare Feet Recommended LED Wattage*
24160
48320
612480
816640
1020800




Recommended LED wattage* for high light plants (assuming 40 watts/square foot)

1 x 1: 40 watts

2 x 2: 160 watts

3 x 3: 360 watts

4 x 4: 640 watts

5 x 5: 1000 watts

with that said plants look nice here let me look for my seed runs going to surprise you what 18 watts of sunblaster does then 36 watts does give me a few mins need to find them in my files :)
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You are reaching those are disco lights still not White power lights by Cree or Bridgelux with Meanwell drivers and it also means if you are using the same amount of watts to watts and you know what you are doing that's 30% more but it's gotta be same amount of watts DIY Cree cobs to what you're using now and you'll still use less ac. 30%= to your 7.75 lbs=10.075 lbs. I hope what I just explained to you you understand and please stop finding junk lights. I can find HID ballast and lights that are junk easier.
 
Darth Vapour

Darth Vapour

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ok got them in order started under 18 watt nano dome to day 45 from seed 18 watt then went to 36 watts sunblaster T5's Ho by day 40 i already had female clones :) right from Germ to day 40 :)
day 35 sexed and transplanted in 25 gallon mediums power 66 watts of sunblaster T5 Ho's sealed room day 45 there huge drum cut off for totes and female clones already lights were 2" from tops of plants

Just saying there is lots of ways to grow from seed my pots i made with air vents right to lower half of medium
 

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alesh

alesh

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Darth Vapour said:
You need min 40 watt for perfect growth

here is copy n paste from LED site

here is link check it out

http://www.ledgrowlightsdepot.com/blogs/blog/16326275-how-many-led-watts-are-required-per-square-foot-of-grow-space


ASSUMING 1.0 SQ FT/PLANT
# of PlantsSquare Feet Recommended LED Wattage*
2280
44160
66240
88320
1010400




ASSUMING 1.5 SQ FT/PLANT
# of PlantsSquare Feet Recommended LED Wattage*
23120
46240
69360
812480
1015600




ASSUMING 2.0 SQ FT/PLANT
# of PlantsSquare Feet Recommended LED Wattage*
24160
48320
612480
816640
1020800




Recommended LED wattage* for high light plants (assuming 40 watts/square foot)

1 x 1: 40 watts

2 x 2: 160 watts

3 x 3: 360 watts

4 x 4: 640 watts

5 x 5: 1000 watts

with that said plants look nice here let me look for my seed runs going to surprise you what 18 watts of sunblaster does then 36 watts does give me a few mins need to find them in my files :)
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Sorry but you totally don't get what efficiency means. I'm done here because it's repeating same ol' over and over again. That web you linked from is just laughable.
 
Rahz

Rahz

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As efficiency goes up the required wattage goes down. 25 watts per foot is good if the efficiency is good...

But limited space might make 40 watts per foot of high efficiency appealing. Over 2O per sq foot and over 1.5 gpw at the same time is the dream.
 
KarmaPaymentPlan

KarmaPaymentPlan

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Alienwidow said:
If you are running a 4x4 then you could go with a 6 hundy. Bigger faster plants than the spaceship lights.
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people don't read anything they just argue for the sake of arguing why the hell would HID be better give me a solid reason why an hps photon grows plants faster. ... if the energy and intensity is there what am i missing? How do you think a plant grows in the first place?
 
Alienwidow

Alienwidow

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KarmaPaymentPlan said:
people don't read anything they just argue for the sake of arguing why the hell would HID be better give me a solid reason why an hps photon grows plants faster. ... if the energy and intensity is there what am i missing? How do you think a plant grows in the first place?
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I don't know why they grow bigger plants faster than leds. They just do.
 
testiclees

testiclees

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Darth Vapour said:
i am claiming 2.5 + pounds per 1 k 75 sq feet of scrog 12 plants 3 k = 7.79 pound harvests best i ever done was 7 pounds 2 k = almost 1.6 GPW
all i am saying is do what works for you if LED is your choice run with it do your best
Its like saying vertical out yields horizontal yet when you look at it on paper ??? it should be out yielding Horizontal but is it ??? see where i am going ..
this is a good debate if we are civil
I do not conform to one side vs the other ,, I am cool to critique them both .. Efficiency is a huge figure,,but in reality it doesn't translate to yield .. That is fact based on grow after grow a person would be foolish to ignore that ..
lets use Vertical growing for A example ,, in vert 101 it states that vertical is 135 percent more efficient
So lets see here a bare basic flat grow under 600 will yield you 14 - 16 oz ????
135 percent more 35 oz which is a massive figure for a 600 thats a mediocre grow
If you go to the upper end of what that 600 could achieve ??? then you multiply that by 135 percent your talking stupid numbers..
So the numbers are not stalking up in the real world application see where i am going peeps what might look good on paper might not work in real world
Same thing applies for everything specially LED
LEd is a perfect example of fooling people into believing its the end all and only way to go
there marketing is complete nonsense foolish hell even there data is a joke
claiming it be a a 600 watt yet actual draw is 345 watt sorry to slap your forehead 600 watts is 600 watts 345 is 345 since when does 345 equate to 600 so until LED smartens really the fuck up i will sit back and let other guppies roll the dice

....bro youre not slapping any foreheads youre pulling your dick. you dont know wtf you are talking about.
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bro youre not slapping any foreheads youre pulling your dick. you dont know wtf you are talking about.
 
KarmaPaymentPlan

KarmaPaymentPlan

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Alienwidow said:
I don't know why they grow bigger plants faster than leds. They just do.
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that says a lot about you, educate yourself i know it's probably real hard for you to read but maybe just maybe you should learn about how your plant grows before you say any more stupid crap
 
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Darth Vapour

Darth Vapour

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Seems like everyone is attacking me for voicing my opinion lets see what the numbers are saying alesh mind posting what you use for LED and final harvest yields ?? some pics and age of plants ??
lets hope there not them DISCO lights that the other person mentioned some posts up .... lol kidding haha
what are actual real growers getting for yields post them up here is a grow i did while back 2 k just over 3.5 pounds vegged not even 2 weeks from clones was just extra's thrown in a make shift room in middle of summer 5 gallon totes temps were extremely hot
 

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Darth Vapour

Darth Vapour

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KarmaPaymentPlan said:
people don't read anything they just argue for the sake of arguing why the hell would HID be better give me a solid reason why an hps photon grows plants faster. ... if the energy and intensity is there what am i missing? How do you think a plant grows in the first place?
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Karma simple show me a 35 day plant grown under LED that looks like this your not going to find it anytime soon well maybe you will a stretched plant for height wise here from a 3" clone and 29 days later please show us a plant grown with LED that compares last pick day 36 hordi superblue crazy growth now please purty please show me a 36 day LED veg grow thats 37 gallon medium
 

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