Darth Vapour
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Care to post your organic plants ???? you appear to be all talkI have to agree with this. The price of synthetic hydro crap is dropping like a rock. You can't hardly give it away here.
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Care to post your organic plants ???? you appear to be all talkI have to agree with this. The price of synthetic hydro crap is dropping like a rock. You can't hardly give it away here.
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Yea but how many people did it take for them to film that result? 9 out of 10 could have tasted the difference and they show you the one that didn't.My favorite video, IT's The same damn banana,lol
A 2012 meta-analysis of data from 240 studies concluded that organic fruits and vegetables were, on average, no more nutritious than their cheaper conventional counterparts; nor were they less likely to be contaminated by pathogenic bacteria like E. coli or salmonella – a finding that surprised even the researchers. “When we began this project,” said Dena Bravata, one of the researchers, “we thought that there would likely be some findings that would support the superiority of organics over conventionalYea but how many people did it take for them to film that result? 9 out of 10 could have tasted the difference and they show you the one that didn't.
Its a comedy show. Its all perception.
I raise chickens. They run free and eat bugs. They taste better so do the eggs. We raise grass fed cattle. You can't buy beef like that. We raise a garden with manure, compost, and castings.
It all taste better. Some call it placebo. Ill say its more the fact the closer to nature you live, the better you feel.
I don't really care about those studies. When you connect to nature and develope a symbiotic relationship your life is better for it.A 2012 meta-analysis of data from 240 studies concluded that organic fruits and vegetables were, on average, no more nutritious than their cheaper conventional counterparts; nor were they less likely to be contaminated by pathogenic bacteria like E. coli or salmonella – a finding that surprised even the researchers. “When we began this project,” said Dena Bravata, one of the researchers, “we thought that there would likely be some findings that would support the superiority of organics over conventional
Many people purchase organic foods in order to avoid exposure to harmful levels of pesticides. But that is a poor rationale. While non-organic fruits and vegetables had more pesticide residue, the levels in more than 99% of cases did not cross the conservative safety thresholds set by regulators.
Moreover, the vast majority of the pesticidal substances found on produce occur “naturally” in people’s diets, through organic and conventional foods. The biochemist Bruce Ames and his colleagues have found that “99.99% (by weight) of the pesticides in the American diet are chemicals that plants produce to defend themselves. Only 52 natural pesticides have been tested in high-dose animal cancer tests, and about half (27) are rodent carcinogens; these 27 are shown to be present in many common foods.”
The bottom line is that natural chemicals are just as likely as synthetic versions to test positive in animal cancer studies, and “at the low doses of most human exposures, the comparative hazards of synthetic pesticide residues are insignificant.” In other words, consumers who buy expensive organic foods in order to avoid pesticide exposure are focusing their attention on 0.01% of the pesticides that they consume.
Ironically, in both Europe and North America, the designation “organic” is itself a synthetic bureaucratic construct – and it makes little sense. It prohibits the use of synthetic chemical pesticides, with some pragmatic exceptions. For example, the EU’s policy notes that “foreseen flexibility rules” can compensate for “local climatic, cultural, or structural differences.” When suitable alternatives are lacking, some (strictly enumerated) synthetic chemicals are allowed.
Similarly, in the US, there is a lengthy list of specific exceptions to the prohibitions. But most “natural” pesticides – as well as pathogen-laden animal excreta, for use as fertilizer – are permitted.
Another rationale for buying organic is that it is supposedly better for the natural environment. But the low yields of organic agriculture in real-world settings – typically 20-50% below yields from conventional agriculture – impose various stresses on farmland and increase water consumption substantially. According to a recent British meta-analysis, ammonia emissions, nitrogen leaching, and nitrous-oxide emissions per unit of output were higher in organic systems than in conventional agriculture, as were land use and the potential for eutrophication – adverse ecosystem responses to the addition of fertilizers and wastes – and acidification.
An anomaly of how “organic” is defined is that the designation does not actually focus on the food’s quality, composition, or safety. Rather, it comprises a set of acceptable practices and procedures that a farmer intends to use. For example, chemical pesticide or pollen from genetically engineered plants wafting from an adjacent field onto an organic crop does not affect the harvest’s status. EU rules are clear that food may be labeled as organic as long as “the ingredients containing [genetically modified organisms] entered the products unintentionally” and amount to less than 0.9% of their content.
Finally, many who are seduced by the romance of organic farming ignore its human consequences. American farmer Blake Hurst offers this reminder: “Weeds continue to grow, even in polycultures with holistic farming methods, and, without pesticides, hand weeding is the only way to protect a crop.” The backbreaking drudgery of hand weeding often falls to women and children.
Of course, organic products should be available for people who feel that they must have and can afford them. But the simple truth is that buying non-organic is far more cost-effective, more humane, and more environmentally responsible.
Read more at http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/henry-i--miller-exposes-the-disappointing-truth-about-organic-agriculture#0xkVf8fksJTS7ifC.99
You sound like a creationist you don't even care about the studies lol... do you pray to a imaginary god ?? has he answered your prayers ??? any conversations one on one >>???I don't really care about those studies. When you connect to nature and develope a symbiotic relationship your life is better for it.
Now on to the studies. Even though the government sets a acceptable level of pesticides and other toxins that does not mean its safe. There are things that the body can purge quickly. Even worse are most of the man made synthetic chems. It is not the one dose that hurts you. Its the fact those chems stay in the body and build up over time. That is the danger.
Now the test that show no nutritional difference in organic and none organic produce. There are studies that show if you go back 70-100 years that a lot of foods had higher nutritional value. It would stand to reason that it would take many years of organic farming to reverse that.
I like my connection to nature. I hunt, fish, raise a garden and animals. My kids are involved in all aspects. It is raw, it is visceral. It is the way of life.
That's not exactly what I meant. Why be disrespectful.You sound like a creationist you don't even care about the studies lol... do you pray to a imaginary god ?? has he answered your prayers ??? any conversations one on one >>???
natural pesticides are chemicals also i guess that is exempt in your mind for staying longer in the body ?? Dam dude really
More like you dont know how to grow budOk so first off, let's say The Ops opinion is biased, (which is not, we see this organic food quality)
At this point it's not about cleaner high, it's about sustainability, synthetics is not sustainable. If you cant connect the dots between agriculture pollution and indoor synthetic chemicals, then you yourself are no different then these Monsanto fucks destroying the world.
Get real you hydro synthetic freaks, your herb is trash and worthless where I'm from, no value.
These threads never go anywhere, so I simply speak the harsh truth, and truth is, your synthetic boo boo is nothing compared to my superior organic herb.
LmaoI don't really care about those studies. When you connect to nature and develope a symbiotic relationship your life is better for it.
Now on to the studies. Even though the government sets a acceptable level of pesticides and other toxins that does not mean its safe. There are things that the body can purge quickly. Even worse are most of the man made synthetic chems. It is not the one dose that hurts you. Its the fact those chems stay in the body and build up over time. That is the danger.
Now the test that show no nutritional difference in organic and none organic produce. There are studies that show if you go back 70-100 years that a lot of foods had higher nutritional value. It would stand to reason that it would take many years of organic farming to reverse that.
I like my connection to nature. I hunt, fish, raise a garden and animals. My kids are involved in all aspects. It is raw, it is visceral. It is the way of life.
Lol ok?More like you dont know how to grow bud
So you have to let microbes do tue work for you
Its completely possible to produce herb that smokes as smooth as any TLO from hydro... but it takes a lot more skill because the grower is in charge of dialing the plant in.
Sounds like you had a bad experience trying to grow on your own
some of the shit these guys come up with OMG, organic has a CLEANER high? WTF is a cleaner high? really? please stfu with that bullshit.
No, you are going to ride your high horse like a typical organic douche. you and the L.E.D guys all make up shit. and that crap you just wrote is the biggest load of crap I have read yet.it is a cleaner high due to more terpenes / cannabinoids present. Ie brix levels and full genetic potential.
you are going to talk shit and argue like you always do captain troll. So Good Day!
captain troll. You are as sharp as a marble. You have zero grow experience. Zero grow knowledg. Try doing research on volatile terpenes and soluble terpenes. I doubt you know anything about chemistry . Its already a fact the chems cut corners limiting a plant to its potential. and I alreadyNo, you are going to ride your high horse like a typical organic douche. you and the L.E.D guys all make up shit. and that crap you just wrote is the biggest load of crap I have read yet.
gonna need this to clean up all the BS being spilled around here
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