Do you believe Americans who work full time should earn a living wage?

Do you believe Americans who work full time should earn a living wage?


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Harrekin

Well-Known Member
Low enough prices they can easily absorb the negligible increases in prices by paying their employees a living wage (if it was up to me those negligible increases would, by law, be absorbed by Doug McMillon, and the Walton aires)
So you're of the opinion, that increasing wages will cause prices to increase at that business...?

Aren't you one of the idiots who claims inflation doesn't occur as a result of increased wages?
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
So you're of the opinion, that increasing wages will cause prices to increase at that business...?
that's a fact, not an opinion.

another cool fact: wages rise faster than the cost of goods. this has been demonstrated over and over.

idiots like you and kynes and others even thought that the BLS stats were a conspiracy until i looked up prices at your locations online and found them to be at or below BLS stats.

increasing wages increases buying power.
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
It's seems you aren't.

It would NOT be negligible, and regardless, it's a private company, their pay isn't something you have any say over :)

Too bad, so sad.
I use the word 'negligible' to imply prices wouldn't rise much, if at all, you say I don't know what the word 'negligible' means, then say rising prices wouldn't be negligible, implying prices would rise..

OK, short stuff..

The rest of your post has already been addressed. Post #736

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I think small businesses that can't afford to increase their employees wages to a living wage should be subsidized by the government so they can. And this is also why I use Walmart as an example, because currently, they're being subsidized for their workers ($7.8 billion a year), then they're "double dipping" when their employees utilize government assistance programs ($13.5 billion a year) and spend it at Walmart because they don't make enough money to pay their bills. We're talking on the order of over $20 billion annually.. Give that to the 5.6 million small businesses to make up the difference in cost of their employees earning a living wage.

Make Walmart pay their fair share, ensure small businesses don't get harmed and ensure all workers in America can pay their bills if they work full time, 40 hours a week"

Good luck arguing with that
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
I use the word 'negligible' to imply prices wouldn't rise much, if at all, you say I don't know what the word 'negligible' means, then say rising prices wouldn't be negligible, implying prices would rise..

OK, short stuff..

The rest of your post has already been addressed. Post #736

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I think small businesses that can't afford to increase their employees wages to a living wage should be subsidized by the government so they can. And this is also why I use Walmart as an example, because currently, they're being subsidized for their workers ($7.8 billion a year), then they're "double dipping" when their employees utilize government assistance programs ($13.5 billion a year) and spend it at Walmart because they don't make enough money to pay their bills. We're talking on the order of over $20 billion annually.. Give that to the 5.6 million small businesses to make up the difference in cost of their employees earning a living wage.
Make Walmart pay their fair share, ensure small businesses don't get harmed and ensure all workers in America can pay their bills if they work full time, 40 hours a week"

Good luck arguing with that
So are these businesses paying what theyve contracted to their employees?
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
So are these businesses paying what theyve contracted to their employees?
Where did the money come from to increase average CEO pay in 1965 from ~25 x's average worker income to more than 325 x's the average workers income for the top 350 corporations in 2015?

That seems like a pretty straight forward question... Not sure why you're avoiding it..
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
Where did the money come from to increase average CEO pay in 1965 from ~25 x's average worker income to more than 325 x's the average workers income for the top 350 corporations in 2015?

That seems like a pretty straight forward question... Not sure why you're avoiding it..
You're avoiding my very simple question.

I'll make it a very simple yes or no, are the employers fulfilling their contractual obligations to employees?
 

god1

Well-Known Member
As an employee, you own your labor

Where did the money come from to increase average CEO income from 25 x's an average worker's wage in 1965 to over 325 x's in 2015?
I wonder why you keep avoiding that question..
Stop wondering, I answered the question several times earlier ... you just don't like the answer.

Your question has no bearing.

As an employee, If you don't like the company's business practice, take your butt and your labor some place else. Don't contribute to the company's bottom line.

You don't own the company --- it's that simple. Profits belong to the company and share holders.

And stop dis'ing on Wally World, poor people and the unskilled need them!

I guess your real agenda is to "fuck" with the poor and unskilled ... I get it.
 

althor

Well-Known Member
Not if they are doing a teenagers job. Why should they make a living doing bullshit work?
If they are doing teenagers jobs, then they will need to work two or more jobs to EARN a living.
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
Not if they are doing a teenagers job. Why should they make a living doing bullshit work?
If they are doing teenagers jobs, then they will need to work two or more jobs to EARN a living.

so what is a 'teenagers job' precisely?

let's play a game, shall we?:


which of these is a 'teen job' at minimum wage?:

  1. laser tag attendant
  2. new target - store set
  3. floral delivery
  4. subway sandwich maker
  5. whole foods cashier
let's see how smart you really are..guess the wages for the above.
 

Uncle Ben

Well-Known Member
How do you grow your potatoes? I have read numerous methods and tried a few. Some work better than others. Yours look really nice.
I use small "seed" potatoes planted whole which cuts down on rot as opposed to cutting up big potatoes. I plant 6" under. Won't have much of a crop this year thanks to a hailstorm. Red and Yukon Gold are my faves. Tried 'em all.
 

Grandpapy

Well-Known Member
We just shut down 2 Fire stations.....

It makes it hard, almost impossible for a company just to get Insurance to go into business.
You think AIG will lower their standard, Try buying Ins. in Amador Co.
 

althor

Well-Known Member
so what is a 'teenagers job' precisely?

let's play a game, shall we?:


which of these is a 'teen job' at minimum wage?:

  1. laser tag attendant
  2. new target - store set
  3. floral delivery
  4. subway sandwich maker
  5. whole foods cashier
let's see how smart you really are..guess the wages for the above.
What does minimum wage have to do with anything?
Minimum wage and earn a living wage are two different things, and a big gap between it.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
As an employee, you own your labor

Where did the money come from to increase average CEO income from 25 x's an average worker's wage in 1965 to over 325 x's in 2015?
I wonder why you keep avoiding that question..

I agree that people own their labor.

Why do you then think other people can take the fruit of it without their permission?
 

OddBall1st

Well-Known Member
The $30 was just an example, but you produce economic growth by performing your job. If you didn't, then why the fuck would an employer employ you?

Workers have produced so much economic growth since 1965, average CEO income of the top 350 corporations in America (thanks @NoDrama for clarifying that) (who employ the overwhelming majority of workers in America) have gone up by more than 325 x's in 2015.

Do you think it's OK to steal workers surplus labor and give it to the CEO, top executives, board of directors and shareholders and leave the employees with minimum wage jobs that require them to utilize public assistance to pay their bills?


I like how you changed it to ..."surplus labor",.. thinking that`s the same thing as you were talking about before. Surplus labor is a whole different animal.

I`ve tried to tell you that industrial businesses have huge overheads, and the retail way of business that we are going does not have huge overheads, it relies on small overheads and smaller profits. Those quickly add up and retail profits are larger than industrial because CEO`s don`t have to put it back into the company. You think that profit is somehow the work forces and should be returned to them. Your problem lies there, nevermind how the profits are generated,....they`re not yours, the claim you make is......

It comes from the way retail is done, They don`t put back nearly the amount industrial has to, and because they don`t have to give it to you, you think it`s stealing,........
 
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