my plan for a vero 29 setup

Zheol

Zheol

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sup folks,
right away I did some reading and decided I would like 9 vero 29v2 for my 4x4x7 tent after talking with supra im going to get hlg-80h-42b drivers 1 each this will be around 900w at the wall at full power will tie all of the drivers to one dimmer as i will not need to switch off any lights on this fixture now im just trying to decide on cooling and if I should use lens or not

so far my things to order are
9 x vero 29 v2 3000k 80-85cri
9 x hlg-80h-42b


im going to keep updating this from when i order my parts to building this light and I want thank supra for the info he provided and the time it took to type it out
 
Zheol

Zheol

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been thinking 3 36" bars from heatsink usa 3 cobs per bar just have not decided on a size yet
 
Positivity

Positivity

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Sounds like a job for a 10" wide heatsink? I've run 400w dissipation cxas on a 10" x 24" and they do run pretty cool, but they were at a bit more efficient a current. So your looking at 300w...I'd go 10" or maybe the 7" from heatsink usa at the smallest.

But, I'm sure supe can calculate that for you. That would be an interesting grow for sure..
 
Rahz

Rahz

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If you're in a reflective tent consider not using lenses. I think you will get more light to the canopy that way.

4x4 and 900w... thumbs up. You will have the option of moving it to a 5x5 and still get great results.

Zheol said:
sup folks,
right away I did some reading and decided I would like 9 vero 29v2 for my 4x4x7 tent after talking with supra im going to get hlg-80h-42b drivers 1 each this will be around 900w at the wall at full power will tie all of the drivers to one dimmer as i will not need to switch off any lights on this fixture now im just trying to decide on cooling and if I should use lens or not

so far my things to order are
9 x vero 29 v2 3000k 80-85cri
9 x hlg-80h-42b


im going to keep updating this from when i order my parts to building this light and I want thank supra for the info he provided and the time it took to type it out
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Zheol

Zheol

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i should of said i plan to use active cooling also i was thinking the 4.9 or the 5.886
 
PICOGRAV

PICOGRAV

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Zheol said:
sup folks,
right away I did some reading and decided I would like 9 vero 29v2 for my 4x4x7 tent after talking with supra im going to get hlg-80h-42b drivers 1 each this will be around 900w at the wall at full power will tie all of the drivers to one dimmer as i will not need to switch off any lights on this fixture now im just trying to decide on cooling and if I should use lens or not

so far my things to order are
9 x vero 29 v2 3000k 80-85cri
9 x hlg-80h-42b


im going to keep updating this from when i order my parts to building this light and I want thank supra for the info he provided and the time it took to type it out
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Nice Ideas, with that driver and the 80 watts you might not ever get them to sparkle like they can :mrgreen:
 
alesh

alesh

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Zheol said:
sup folks,
right away I did some reading and decided I would like 9 vero 29v2 for my 4x4x7 tent after talking with supra im going to get hlg-80h-42b drivers 1 each this will be around 900w at the wall at full power will tie all of the drivers to one dimmer as i will not need to switch off any lights on this fixture now im just trying to decide on cooling and if I should use lens or not

so far my things to order are
9 x vero 29 v2 3000k 80-85cri
9 x hlg-80h-42b


im going to keep updating this from when i order my parts to building this light and I want thank supra for the info he provided and the time it took to type it out
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I would reconsider the choice of drivers and COBs. While Vero29 are cheap and quite efficient when run hard but the drivers to do so are very expensive. You can get this job done cheaper and more efficient.
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I think that prices for CXB above are about what Kingbrite sell them for.
 
Rahz

Rahz

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If he's set on running them at near nominal current it might be worth waiting on the HLG-240H-C2100. The word from Meanwell is that they will be available in August. 3 of them will power 9 V29s @ 2.1A. Would likely save around $150 in driver cost.

2 EUC-320S210DT would power 8 @ 2.1A.
 
alesh

alesh

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Rahz said:
If he's set on running them at near nominal current it might be worth waiting on the HLG-240H-C2100. The word from Meanwell is that they will be available in August. 3 of them will power 9 V29s @ 2.1A. Would likely save around $150 in driver cost.

2 EUC-320S210DT would power 8 @ 2.1A.
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If EUC-320S210DT was available for $112.11 .
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bicit

bicit

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Rahz said:
If he's set on running them at near nominal current it might be worth waiting on the HLG-240H-C2100. The word from Meanwell is that they will be available in August. 3 of them will power 9 V29s @ 2.1A. Would likely save around $150 in driver cost.

2 EUC-320S210DT would power 8 @ 2.1A.
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This news made me moist.... I hope they make a 240H-C700B....

ETA: Sweet, looks like they plan on it. Good for five 72v 3590's or ten 36v 3590's.... Very nice.

HLG-240H-C PDF link
 
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Zheol

Zheol

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I have been looking a lot at the cbx3590 cbx3070 15x cbx3070 ran at 1050 on 3x hlg-185c-1050b is cheaper to buy then the vero set up nothings ordered yet and this should kick ass in my jardin dr120 but still thanking thanks for that kick ass chart
 
Rahz

Rahz

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Running at low current is addictive isn't it?

Just keep in mind the final photon count is the important thing. I was hoping to see an 800-900 watt lamp :)
 
Rahz

Rahz

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For a 4x4 600 watts to the emitters is super nice. I would more like to see a 900 in a 5x5, though 600 in a 5x5 would still do a decent job. 900 watts in a 4x4 is uncharted territory, and on paper would produce the best yield at a loss of some efficiency. Would be smart to calculate the PPFD and base that into your consideration. 900 watts would likely be 1200-1300 PPFD or even more at lower current. Keeping in mind the center will be brighter than that, emitters would need to be spread out as much as possible.

I think for an enthusiast 1000 PPFD is a good number to shoot for which would roughly translate into 700 watts or so for a 4x4.

Keeping a budget and achieving something close might mean 12 CXB3070 @ 1.4A powered by 3 HLG-185H-C1400s (600 watts), or 12 V29s @ 1.4A powered by 4 HLG-120H-C1400s (620 watts).

If you wanted to push it, add 3 more V29s and a driver (775 watts), or 4 more CXBs and a driver (800 watts).
 
Zheol

Zheol

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supra said my frist idea would be about 950 PPFD and he only runs 750 i take stuff to far to much tooltime cuz i needs me moore powa "tim the toolguy grunts" so i know i need to to e it down some hah my pocket book will thank me either way im still gonna update the top post when i do place orders i just need to remember K.I.S.S (keep it stupid simple)
 
Rahz

Rahz

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Both my spaces operate at about 800 PPFD. Results are super nice but I wouldn't mind having a bit more light in there.
 
Zheol

Zheol

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thats good to know thanks hmm maybe i should use your sugestion on the veros and get those drivers and then upgrade to the hlg-240h-c2100b when they come out then use other drivers to build a pure veg light for my mom/clone chamber
 
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