I'm voting for McCain....

Seamaiden

Well-Known Member
By abolishing the death penalty we, as a society, are effectively saying that there is no crime which can be committed that warrants death. This is atrocious, this lack of regard for innocence versus the beasts. If you, or any human, were raped and murdered, god forbid, I'd hope the "let the punishment fit the crime" mantra would be employed, and I'd want to have the option of seeing it on national TV. "This is what happens to evil, when we catch you." We have become a nation of sissies.
You're making the (highly erroneous) presumption that our justice system is perfect, that no innocent man or woman may be found guilty. Hard labor is plenty for me, and I'd rather send a criminal free than allow my government to commit the crime of condemning an innocent man to pay the ultimate, and irreversible, price.
Hypothetically, if it was by brother, the rapist murderer, I'd do it myself, if I found out first. Really fuck 'em up, seriously. And then turn him over to the cops barely alive. I'd hope he did the same to me if the position was reversed. Some crimes are so, fucked, it has to be an option for punishment, death. No, I wouldn't "want" to, but if it is occurring, why pretend like it isn't. I believe it is a necessity in civilized societies, severe punishment for severe crime, and publicizing the punishment would only reinforce the popular sentiment that this is absolutely, unequivocally, unacceptable. This is one of the few subjects that genuinly angers me.
Civilized? Do you know the company we, the U.S., keep with regard to implementation of the DP? Many of the countries who do as we do are those very same Muslim countries you decry so vehemently. Is that a coincidence? I don't think so.
 

ccodiane

New Member
Your entitled to your opinion. As for civilized, I had it quoted and then unquoted it. In my opinion, we are highly civilized. No reason to quote it for the people I knew would disagree.
 

ccodiane

New Member
Seems we are in the majority.....maybe we're not all sissies.

Death Penalty Policy By State


Death Penalty Policy By State

STATES WITH THE DEATH PENALTY
Other State Information:

STATES WITH THE DEATH PENALTY

Alabama
Arizona
Arkansas
California California. First-degree murder with special circumstances; train wrecking; treason; perjury causing execution.
Colorado
Connecticut
Delaware
Florida
Georgia
Idaho
Indiana
Illinois
Kansas
Kentucky Kentucky. Murder with aggravating factors; kidnaping with aggravating factors (KRS 32.025).
Louisiana Louisiana. First-degree murder; aggravated rape of victim under age 13; treason (La. R.S. 14:30, 14:42, and 14:113).
Maryland
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
Nebraska
Nevada
New Hampshire
New Mexico
North Carolina
Ohio
Oklahoma
Oklahoma. First-degree murder in conjunction with a finding of at least 1 of 8 statutorily-defined aggravating circumstances; sex crimes against a child under 14 years of age.

Revision: Added as a capital offense sex crimes against a child under 14 years of age when the offender has a previous conviction for a similar offense (Okla. Stat. Ann. 10 § 7115), effective 7/1/2006.
Oregon
Pennsylvania
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Virginia
Washington
Wyoming

ALSO
- U.S. Gov't
- U.S. Military


STATES WITHOUT THE DEATH PENALTY
Alaska
Hawaii
Iowa
Maine
Massachusetts
Michigan
Minnesota
North Dakota
New Jersey
New York
Rhode Island
Vermont
West Virginia
Wisconsin

ALSO
- Dist. of Columbia
 
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ccodiane

New Member
Apostasy in Islam-(Arabic: ارتداد, irtidād or ridda) is commonly defined as the rejection of Islam in word or deed by a person who has been a Muslim.
The four major Sunni and the one major Shia Madh'hab (schools of Islamic jurisprudence) agree that a sane adult male apostate must be executed.

Apostasy in Islam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Qur'an states that God (in Arabic, Allah) despises apostasy. See verses [Qur'an 3:72], [Qur'an 3:90],[Qur'an 16:106],[Qur'an 4:137] and [Qur'an 5:54] which deal with apostasy directly and which state that Allah will punish and reject apostates in the afterlife. Except 16:106-109, the verses that discuss apostasy all appear in surahs identified as Madinan and belong to the period when the Islamic state had been established.
 
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tipsgnob

New Member
with the new innovations in DNA people are being found innocent all the time now...just saying...you can kill them if want...I don't care....
 

ccodiane

New Member
DNA is used in proof positive prosecution much, much, much more frequently than it is used in reversing previous convictions...worked for OJ...just sayin.
 

tipsgnob

New Member
Just last week, McCain and his party attacked Barack Obama and ridiculed the idea that keeping your car tires inflated is an effective way to improve fuel efficiency and keep down the cost of gasoline. The thing is, everyone from AAA to NASCAR agreed with Barack. McCain finally had to face reality this week and reverse his position. But the media had a good laugh about McCain's petty, misguided stunt and ignored his effort to distort the truth to win a few cheap political points
 

ccodiane

New Member
Except that many/the majority of us check our tire pressure regularly......already. Other than that, it was a fucking ridiculous assertion, Barrys. Why don't we just start levitating around, that should save some oil....you first BS.
 

ccodiane

New Member
Or maybe stone wheels, and no floorboards, and we can skeedaddle around on foot power......yabba dabba dooooooo.
 

medicineman

New Member
Except that many/the majority of us check our tire pressure regularly......already. Other than that, it was a fucking ridiculous assertion, Barrys. Why don't we just start levitating around, that should save some oil....you first BS.
That's a downright lie. The majority of you, don't even know how, or what the pressure should be. I, on the other hand, have a compressor at home and do check my pressure regularily. I find they on average, lose about 2-3 lbs a month
 

ccodiane

New Member
That's a downright lie. The majority of you, don't even know how, or what the pressure should be. I, on the other hand, have a compressor at home and do check my pressure regularily. I find they on average, lose about 2-3 lbs a month

Better get your valve stems checked.
 

medicineman

New Member
Better get your valve stems checked.
You mean with the old spit test, ~LOL~. Hey dude, In case you forgot (Quite likely) I was/am an ASE certified Mechanic. I think I probably know a little about tires and tire problems, seeing that I've probably worked on/changed/repaired thousands of them, but for you novices, yeah take that quarter out of your pocket, and use it at your local gas station to install proper air pressure. Look on the sticker located on your door jam for proper inflation pressures. Just for the record, I run 35PSI in my truck tires.
 

ccodiane

New Member
Ok...here's a question, or a few. What are the components of tires? How are they made? Is oil anywhere in the equation? Is over inflation bad for tires? Shouldn't we stop driving if we want to save oil? Or should we produce more oil if we don't want to stop driving?
 

medicineman

New Member
Ok...here's a question, or a few. What are the components of tires? How are they made? Is oil anywhere in the equation? Is over inflation bad for tires? Shouldn't we stop driving if we want to save oil? Or should we produce more oil if we don't want to stop driving?
Well, what's the prize for the correct answers?
 
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