Does flower time start with flip or first pistol?

[D'sNuts]

Seems my first indoor crop is coming in 2 weeks late? just wondered?
Danks

 

[Merlot]

You decide when it flowers.

 

[sworth]

They always seem to be late ....

 

[makka]

decide a bit later then

 

[a mongo frog]

I start my 9 week flower time when i turn my lamps to 12/12. Pretty sure thats in most if not all literature.

 

[makka]

i count when i see the very first little bud forming on the tops then im in flower

 

[3eyes]

I count form flip but the time on a seed packet is just a guide E.G. 65-75 days that's a 10 day window so they could be ready some where in between or even before or after depending on environment and which phenos you got

 

[makka]

it all depends from seed then could take weeks if not mature when flipped
if its a clone then its mature and usually starts a few days to a week after flip

 

[3eyes]

it all depends from seed then could take weeks if not mature when flipped
if its a clone then its mature and usually starts a few days to a week after flip

This is also true i flip mine at 4-6" high they are from seed and in NFT they don't flower for about 3 weeks but still reach between 4 and 6 feet high

 

[makka]

This is also true i flip mine at 4-6" high they are from seed and in NFT they don't flower for about 3 weeks but still reach between 4 and 6 feet high

yes i find the same from seed if i dont veg untill i see start of hairs usually start of week 5/6 from pop

 

[old shol4evr]

i call mine at first site of flowers ,i only call it because i keep journal on all my grows ,as mention above those numbers are a estimated time frame,i do mine buy the week for feeding schedule only,when them little mushroom heads start turning amber it is close

 

[Darth Vapour]

ALL Breeders go with time of light schedule change ,, Day one of flower is day 1 of 12 / 12 its estimated times not from when first pistols show its from light change is first day of winter when first snow fall comes or is it when winter solstice says >>????

 

[makka]

ALL Breeders go with time of light schedule change ,, Day one of flower is day 1 of 12 / 12 its estimated times not from when first pistols show its from light change is first day of winter when first snow fall comes or is it when winter solstice says >>????

ok then so if i plant a seed under 12/12 it will finish in 10 weeks like the beeder state?? no i dont think so ive tried it like countless others i am not saying your wrong but going by breeders times even with the xtra 10 to 14 day a plant from seed thats a ten week flower will not finish in 12 weeks. autos maybe but reg or fem not a chance unless its cut early
if op cut on breeders times they wouldnt be finished

 

[MarWan]

i count when i see the very first little bud forming on the tops then im in flower

what he said.

 

[old shol4evr]

ALL BREEDERS as you state dont use the same medium ,coco and hydro grow really fast,but we that grow in soil have a whole diffrent ballgame going on.
DARTH you will find that most seed producers are giving you the estimated days,if it was dead on they would say a perfect day,you cannot go by those numbers but have to go by trich site inspection,those numbers are for you to start paying close attention.

 

[Darth Vapour]

ok then so if i plant a seed under 12/12 it will finish in 10 weeks like the beeder state?? no i dont think so ive tried it like countless others i am not saying your wrong but going by breeders times even with the xtra 10 to 14 day a plant from seed thats a ten week flower will not finish in 12 weeks. autos maybe but reg or fem not a chance unless its cut early
if op cut on breeders times they wouldnt be finishedView attachment 3421436

Cmon dude really were talking what causes hormonal change in a mature plant . and that longer dark hrs happens when light changes so day 1 on 12 / 12 hormonal changes start..
Hence the preflower stage
Now if your talking from seed this is not a mature plant so going on 12 /12 the plant will grow for min 4 weeks maturing before you see first pistols 28 - 30 days from my experience..
many growers will place seedlings in 12 /12 to sex them faster again around 4th week from seed rather then the normal 7 - 9th week veg where plants have matured and show there sex naturally
So for instance you have a strain that is again approx 65 days from seed you can safely add another 25 - 30 days



Now many factors here like lighting, environment, food, and genetics all play a key roll..

 

[Darth Vapour]

ALL BREEDERS as you state dont use the same medium ,coco and hydro grow really fast,but we that grow in soil have a whole diffrent ballgame going on.
DARTH you will find that most seed producers are giving you the estimated days,if it was dead on they would say a perfect day,you cannot go by those numbers but have to go by trich site inspection,those numbers are for you to start paying close attention.

That is exactly what i mentioned estimated around the breeders time although most breeders grow in soil coco, as for DWC awm no i do not know of any profesional breeders breeding in DWC do you

 

[qwizoking]

It is flowering day 1 of flip

 

[WeedFreak78]

I don't count the first week i flip to 12/12. Almost anything I grew out went at least a week longer than the breeder said, and it take 3-7 days, generally, for a plant to fully switch to flowering. 8 wk strains i go 9 weeks from flip, 10 week strains go 11 weeks from flip, etc. But in all honesty, it doesn't matter, it's just a guideline..learn to read your plants, I've seen supposedly 8 wk strains take 10+ weeks to fully ripen.

 

[makka]

Cmon dude really were talking what causes hormonal change in a mature plant . and that longer dark hrs happens when light changes so day 1 on 12 / 12 hormonal changes start..
Hence the preflower stage
Now if your talking from seed this is not a mature plant so going on 12 /12 the plant will grow for min 4 weeks maturing before you see first pistols 28 - 30 days from my experience..
many growers will place seedlings in 12 /12 to sex them faster again around 4th week from seed rather then the normal 7 - 9th week veg where plants have matured and show there sex naturally
So for instance you have a strain that is again approx 65 days from seed you can safely add another 25 - 30 days



Now many factors here like lighting, environment, food, and genetics all play a key roll..

i understand what you are saying but just because the plant is put under 12/12 it doesnt mean its started flowering does it

takes a few days to a few weeks depending on lots of factors like age/maturirity/light schedule plants dont only flower on 12/12 a few people use less on hrs this would imply their plants flower faster but thats not the case just look at torontokes thread and few his pal running it to.

i dont wanna argue i just saying u cant rely on the flick of a switch and breeders word to rely on it finishing on time.

like u said u can give or take 25 to 30 days

ALL Breeders go with time of light schedule change ,, Day one of flower is day 1 of 12 / 12 its estimated times not from when first pistols show its from light change is first day of winter when first snow fall comes or is it when winter solstice says >>????

if op went off your post ^^^ he would surely be harvesting early going by breeders times