Bernie To Introduce New Bill: College Should Be Free Just Like Germany and Nordic Countries

[Padawanbater2]

Both rely upon unauthorized taking. In one instance you like the outcome so you rename the action as taxation. In another when theft occurs that you don't like, say a mugging, you agree to call it theft.

What do you get in return when someone mugs you?

What do you get in return when you pay taxes?

You are a child

 

[Padawanbater2]

Only the brightest are accepted into college in Germany. Paddy and Sky, sorry to burst your bubble but you two would not be admitted.

We don't need anymore theater arts majors.

Try bio and chem (3.6 gpa all while making more money than sheskank)

 

[Rob Roy]

What do you get in return when someone mugs you?

What do you get in return when you pay taxes?

You are a child

In both instances you get a gun in your back don't you?

When somebody has an idea so good you have to be forced to pay for it, does that tell you anything?

Your view relies on the idea that force is acceptable when you like the result, even if the people you are forcing would prefer not to be involved. How does that make you any different from the mugger?

 

[UncleBuck]

...an idea so good you have to be forced...Your view relies on the idea that force is acceptable when you like the result, even if the people you are forcing would prefer not to be involved.

some people, like jesus, just wanted to walk the earth freely.

what would happen if jesus wandered onto robroy's property?

 

[Padawanbater2]

In both instances you get a gun in your back don't you?

No, the US government will never threaten to kill you if you don't pay your taxes

When somebody has an idea so good you have to be forced to pay for it, does that tell you anything?

I just brought up half a dozen good ideas that don't get properly funded because of retarded personal and/or religious beliefs

Your view relies on the idea that force is acceptable when you like the result, even if the people you are forcing would prefer not to be involved. How does that make you any different from the mugger?

There is no force, you are paying (taxes) for a service (government) just like you would if you went to any business establishment. If you went to a bar with a 2 drink minimum and a door charge, and you didn't want the drinks, did the bar "force" you to pay the door charge?

You came in the bar, you're required to pay the door charge whether you drink your 2 drinks or not. If you don't like the door charge, why wouldn't you just go to another bar without one? Or with a lower one?

 

[sheskunk]

Try bio and chem (3.6 gpa all while making more money than sheskank)

You should run out and get a felony. You'd get a HUGE raise.

 

[UncleBuck]

You should run out and get a felony. You'd get a HUGE raise.

no, but his employer would on;y have to pay a fraction of his wages and the federal government would pay the rest, like is this case with you.

entitled mooch.

 

[Padawanbater2]

You should run out and get a felony. You'd get a HUGE raise.

I don't need a raise, and my asshole doesn't need to experience prison

 

[Rob Roy]

some people, like jesus, just wanted to walk the earth freely.

what would happen if jesus wandered onto robroy's property?

I'd ask him if he got his fedora from Abandon Conflict.

 

[Rob Roy]

No, the US government will never threaten to kill you if you don't pay your taxes

I just brought up half a dozen good ideas that don't get properly funded because of retarded personal and/or religious beliefs

There is no force, you are paying (taxes) for a service (government) just like you would if you went to any business establishment. If you went to a bar with a 2 drink minimum and a door charge, and you didn't want the drinks, did the bar "force" you to pay the door charge?

You came in the bar, you're required to pay the door charge whether you drink your 2 drinks or not. If you don't like the door charge, why wouldn't you just go to another bar without one? Or with a lower one?

A service cannot exist if the "customer" is made to purchase it under duress. So I go to your house, take $500 from you and leave a 1/4 ounce of shitty weed on your kitchen table and tell you to have at it. Did I just provide you a service?

 

[Padawanbater2]

A service cannot exist if the "customer" is made to purchase it under duress. So I go to your house, take $500 from you and leave a 1/4 ounce of shitty weed on your kitchen table and tell you to have at it. Did I just provide you a service?

Your analogy falls flat on its face, I didn't agree to have my house broken into, you did agree to the terms and services by living in the land, whether you believe you did or not is irrelevant

And if a service cannot exist if the customer is made to purchase it, what's your explanation for car insurance? That's actually a really great analogy. You agree to drive the car, you have to pay for the insurance; you agree to live in the US, you have to pay the taxes

I'm guessing you're against car insurance, too, right?

 

[sheskunk]

I don't need a raise, and my asshole doesn't need to experience prison

Yeah, you'd most likely get raped like a little bitch.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Yeah, you'd most likely get raped like a little bitch.

I agree, statistically speaking

 

[sheskunk]

I agree, statistically speaking

If I were ever in prison I'd be raping bitches like you every day.

 

[Rob Roy]

Your analogy falls flat on its face, I didn't agree to have my house broken into, you did agree to the terms and services by living in the land, whether you believe you did or not is irrelevant

And if a service cannot exist if the customer is made to purchase it, what's your explanation for car insurance? That's actually a really great analogy. You agree to drive the car, you have to pay for the insurance; you agree to live in the US, you have to pay the taxes

I'm guessing you're against car insurance, too, right?

I am against coercion and against changing the meaning of some words depending upon who is deriving the benefit from the outcome.

 

[Padawanbater2]

I am against coercion

Taxes aren't coercion, as you have the choice to live in the US or not

Do you believe insurance is 'coercion'?

 

[UncleBuck]

A service cannot exist if the "customer" is made to purchase it under duress.

you specifically told me you bought your house absent duress though.

 

[UncleBuck]

changing the meaning of some words

ironic.

 

[UncleBuck]

Taxes aren't coercion, as you have the choice to live in the US or not

Do you believe insurance is 'coercion'?

hell, you can live in the united states and not pay taxes. won't cost you a thing to do it either, just hitchhike out then backpack your way in.

 

[Padawanbater2]

hell, you can live in the united states and not pay taxes. won't cost you a thing to do it either, just hitchhike out then backpack your way in.

Proenneke is one of my leading inspirations, right up there with Carl Sagan

Fucking alpha as they come