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707humboldt

707humboldt

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Transplanting if done right should create very little shock. Ive transplanted 1000s of times and the plant don't even notice any thing happened to them.

Regardless if your growing in soil or not, ph still needs to be adjusted imo. Its a big common misconception. If you continue to water/feed with the incorrect ph, its going to affect the ph of the soil thus affecting what nutrients the plants can uptake and of how effective they can do so. The plants may still grow and produce but they are not going to do so optimally to their full potential with improper ph. IMO

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rob333

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bokedoki said:
And what do you mean rob? They didn't seem to be shocked from the transplant itself but from the shit soil... I transplant very quick trying to do minimal damage.
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u will always get a transplant shock and another thing take it from som1 that gorws in soil ever year dont ph your soil alot of people here say u must ph soil but dont soil will buffer any ph value as u can see i do not ph and if i did i would be ph ing about 1000 ltrs
 

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rob333

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rob333 said:
u will always get a transplant shock and another thing take it from som1 that gorws in soil ever year dont ph your soil alot of people here say u must ph soil but dont soil will buffer any ph value as u can see i do not ph and if i did i would be ph ing about 1000 ltrs
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and thats about 1000ltrs every 3-4 days
 
707humboldt

707humboldt

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Well if they shock they don't show it because they don't skip a beat.

And take this from someone else who grows in soil every year. Ph 5000 gallon tanks per site. Ph'd soil outdoors....
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And indoors.....
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Done both, ph far out preformed
 
707humboldt

707humboldt

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If your water is right in the range no need to ph. But I've seen some peoples water come out 8.5-9 and that water has to be ph'd no matter what. Theres no way watering with ph 9 water is helpful to the plants
 
bokedoki

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What do you guys recommened? I'm hoping this promix will help sort it all out... I think I'm good with my ph... I will check it now though for sure..... 6.8 is fine no? It seems my runoff water has a lower ph then the water I tested before watering.
 
707humboldt

707humboldt

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6.8 is perfectly fine. Just make sure if you up your nutes at any point that it doesnt change it too much. I keep mine around 6.4-6.7
 
bokedoki

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It seems my runoff ph is around 5.8-6.... anything I can do to up it? I have dolomite lime should I top my soil with it?
 
707humboldt

707humboldt

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Run off is really not a good way to judge ph, you can get an idea but its not too accurate. If its 6 I wouldn't worry too much, especially if your putting 6.8 into it. To fix run off ph, you add higher ph water which you are already doing. IMO
 
phil k

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bokedoki said:
What do you guys recommened? I'm hoping this promix will help sort it all out... I think I'm good with my ph... I will check it now though for sure..... 6.8 is fine no? It seems my runoff water has a lower ph then the water I tested before watering.
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drop your ph .. 6.8 is the boarder line and too close to the edge run 6.5-6.4 i always suggest 6.5 ...... thats definitely one of your problems that really tan color burn generally means your ph is above 6.8 so that makes sense..... get your ph down... your leaves will absolutely look the way they do with high ph.. they will even burn when its been too high too long.. been there ...

humboldt707 knows what he's talking about he's absolutely right the ph matters i don't care what anyone on here wants to say if they say it doesn't they haven't grown in soil properly ever...

bokedoki said:
I had them in soil that I thought was good but I was just told someone mixed a bag of miracle grow with it so now I'm freaking out.The original mix was just organic potting soil it was good... good thing I took them out
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well thats something you need to say it makes sense now.. see the young leaves ??the very lower ones they are burnt up... miracle grow soil contains these pellets that are the feed they are time release setup but when you use soil like that AND mix chemicals into your water and feed it fries the plant .... so even though your transplant happened they can still have that shit around the roots in the old soil... eventually your plant will be fine most the new growth doesnt show issues from the soil now..


rob333 said:
u will always get a transplant shock and another thing take it from som1 that gorws in soil ever year dont ph your soil alot of people here say u must ph soil but dont soil will buffer any ph value as u can see i do not ph and if i did i would be ph ing about 1000 ltrs
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absolutely freaking not.. you will not ALWAYS get transplant shock.... when you properly transplant and don't break your rooting system when doing it they go through VERY LITTLE to no shock at all... transplanting in hydro is completely different generally the roots always break and or become damaged in some way... in those cases yes the plant can and will stress to some extent. but soil transfers done right creates very little to no shock if you know what your doing and the plant remains in the same environment...
 
phil k

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hey actually the other thing you didn't mention your oxygenating your water... are you properly oxygenating it with a air stone prior to feeding?
 
phil k

phil k

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707humboldt said:
Run off is really not a good way to judge ph, you can get an idea but its not too accurate. If its 6 I wouldn't worry too much, especially if your putting 6.8 into it. To fix run off ph, you add higher ph water which you are already doing. IMO
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yeah absolutely don't ever judge ph by run off.. first off on promix the ph is 7.0 so you feed 6.5 water the ph of the soil is automatically adjusted by the waters ph ... so when the media is wet it carries the waters ph.. as it dries the soil goes back to the natural ph state which is 7.0 so don't ever worry about your run off worry about what your ph of the water going in is.. thats the most important thing if your waters ph is 6.5-6.4 and the waters oxygenated the only thing your going to run into is.. overwatering which it sounds like your good there... and over feeding...
 
phil k

phil k

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when your ph is on point and your feed is on point your plants should always be very hardy none of your leaves anywhere should be showing any issues ever..
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