Sharing proven soil recipe!

[Dgringo69]

Hey RIU,

Just thought I would share a soil recipe that I have put together over the last few years. The beauty of this is that all you need for a standard length grow is water (non chlorinated of coarse). I have grown cannabis and veggies in it with great results. I have waxy, deep green foliage with no signs of deficiencies. Plants grow prolifically and set fruit with ease. I have grown Shark Shock CBD outdoors (July-Oct) with only well water start to finish. Tomatoes love it for sure! My latest venture with this soil is an indoor grow (Blue Kush, Pineapple Express, CR+). All are happy across the board with only well water added and are just a few weeks from finishing out. I'll get some pics of those posted soon. This recipe can take you from veg through flower with ease. The only thing I have not tested this soil with is an extended grow period such as an outdoor grow spanning April to Late October. I would suspect that some amendment of the dry fertilizer in September would be required. Enough talk. Here is the recipe. Shown in the pic is a cherry tomato in the soil at 2.5ft tall it has 52 tomatoes on it..water only.

-3.8 cuft bale Bonnie Plants, Professional Growing Mix (Peat Moss, perlite, dolomite lime, yucca extract)
-20lb earthworm castings ( I use Pachamama Earthworm Castings)
-8c of Espoma Rose Tone
-10c greensand
-Plant Success (Soluble)

Mix all dry ingredients together and then water thoroughly with plant success. I also hit mine with a good simple compost tea (Finished compost, molasses, liquid seaweed)

That is it. I suspect that the addition of Azomite would only help but I haven't added it yet.

 

[MjMama]

That's definitely an easy recipe. Id go for glacial rock dust over azomite if you were going to add anything. Kelp meal would be a great addition too. I bet with the experience you have now you could ditch the epsoma and make your own from scratch.

 

[Dgringo69]

That's definitely an easy recipe. Id go for glacial rock dust over azomite if you were going to add anything. Kelp meal would be a great addition too. I bet with the experience you have now you could ditch the epsoma and make your own from scratch.

You are probably right and I appreciate the glacial suggestion! There are many complex recipes out there that work very well but I'm pushing for something much more simple that pulls great results. I have been fooling with all sorts of ingredients and making super soil for years but honestly, last year I threw this simple recipe together and it worked better than anything in the past. This recipe was originally the Bonnie mix, rose tone and minerals plus from Rabbit Hill Farms. Simplicity has caught my fancy.

 

[MjMama]

That's great. I have a few things I will never grow without, like kelp and alfalfa and I've just kept adding more ammendments over the years. I used to play mad scientist as a kid, so the soil mixing thing is right up my alley.

 

[Dgringo69]

That's great. I have a few things I will never grow without, like kelp and alfalfa and I've just kept adding more ammendments over the years. I used to play mad scientist as a kid, so the soil mixing thing is right up my alley.

Yeah,
Same here. Mad scientist through and through and it's caused lots of probs. For the last two years my main thing is DWC. It lets me tweak and presents plenty of challenges so that I don't get bored. With the strains I have experimented with, I have been able to pull 1.5oz/sqft scrog

 

[phil k]

sorry boss been doing organic amending for years and the recipe has a lot more shit needed maybe if your looking to hit one or two ozs a plant ... or grow herbs.... but ..but id suggest sub cools super soil recipe over that one or anything over that really hell ocean forest carries more weight...

 

[phil k]

the only thing that mix would be good for really would be a descent veg.. but whats the point of that .. veg organic then start feeding nutrients?

 

[Dgringo69]

sorry boss been doing organic amending for years and the recipe has a lot more shit needed maybe if your looking to hit one or two ozs a plant ... or grow herbs.... but ..but id suggest sub cools super soil recipe over that one or anything over that really hell ocean forest carries more weight...

Sure. Skepticism is expected. I can't argue with you here because like I said in my original post, I haven't done a long term, monster plant grow in my stuff yet. I'll let you know how it goes. I would have said the same thing to me three years ago..

 

[greasemonkeymann]

Sure. Skepticism is expected. I can't argue with you here because like I said in my original post, I haven't done a long term, monster plant grow in my stuff yet. I'll let you know how it goes. I would have said the same thing to me three years ago..

don't worry about it, you didn't say it was a perfect soil mix.
You can get two oz a plant easy with that, I've seen huge plants in very inferior soil.
Besides, i'd never recommend subs recipe.
there are much, much better recipes than that one, and better growing techniques as well.

 

[phil k]

okay.. im

Sure. Skepticism is expected. I can't argue with you here because like I said in my original post, I haven't done a long term, monster plant grow in my stuff yet. I'll let you know how it goes. I would have said the same thing to me three years ago..

still gonna say it didn't mean for it to be mean but I'm telling you now the flower isn't going to be anything.

don't worry about it, you didn't say it was a perfect soil mix.
You can get two oz a plant easy with that, I've seen huge plants in very inferior soil.
Besides, i'd never recommend subs recipe.
there are much, much better recipes than that one, and better growing techniques as well.

i wouldn't recommend it either.. but the point being that the above listed soil amendment real his fine and dandy for veg and a decently long veg but flower wise its almost a waste... i mean think about the new grower thats going to goole soil system and see the recipe and follow it get a shitty yeild or grow and either never grow again or talk shit about organic growing.. all because he didn't do it right from the beginning ... thats it..

 

[phil k]

and honestly i HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt you will hit 2 oz a plant with that .. his above listed recipe is no where near as hot as ocean forest and 90% of ocean forest growers hit 1.5 on their grows .. he'd maybe hit 1oz

 

[phil k]

im not trying to argue or bash the board at all honestly yes great for veg..

but whats even crazier is for you to say you don't like subcoils recipe .. and your saying his is okay... any fully amended soil is the same basic principals of sub cools recipe. the only shit side to sub cools recipe s that he recommends fox farms or roots and they carrie salts and shit ... but the basic idea is the plants always in hotter soil and is always feeding .. same with the above recipe. therefore the basic principals of sub cools recipe is being used in a different way.... which i hate saying cause sub cool didn't develop amending fucking soil!!!!!!

 

[phil k]

his name just made people understand that chemical lines aren't needed when the grows are done properly ... but his system sucks honestly your plant STILL never drinks fresh water... thats the bottom line every water still picks up nutrients from the amended soil EVERY WATER regardless ..

 

[greasemonkeymann]

im not trying to argue or bash the board at all honestly yes great for veg..

but whats even crazier is for you to say you don't like subcoils recipe .. and your saying his is okay... any fully amended soil is the same basic principals of sub cools recipe. the only shit side to sub cools recipe s that he recommends fox farms or roots and they carrie salts and shit ... but the basic idea is the plants always in hotter soil and is always feeding .. same with the above recipe. therefore the basic principals of sub cools recipe is being used in a different way.... which i hate saying cause sub cool didn't develop amending fucking soil!!!!!!

if you want to go there we can, i can LIST the reasons subs recipe isn't ideal. Far different than what i prefer.
I didn't say his recipe was better than subs, only said that it's work. I merely said that to make, and assemble, and age, a soil like that one, for the time and money, and the effort it takes, you can make a far superior soil mix.
And i have personally gotten over 2 oz a plant on reused vermfire, with NOTHING added, as a experiment. Give the plants room and they can give you a good amount of flowers, amended or otherwise. Blue Dream and jack herer, outside, in 12 gal pots, in re-used (one run) of plain bagged vermifire.
I would do it much much differently... either way.

 

[st0wandgrow]

sorry boss been doing organic amending for years and the recipe has a lot more shit needed maybe if your looking to hit one or two ozs a plant ... or grow herbs.... but ..but id suggest sub cools super soil recipe over that one or anything over that really hell ocean forest carries more weight...

Why would you say that? Espoma Rose Tone contains feather meal, bone meal, poultry manure, alfalfa meal, Greensand, sulfate of potash, and Humates.

I'm not saying that those would necessarily be the ingredients that I would chose when putting together a soil, but to say that this will only get you through veg is kind of a silly statement IME.

 

[Dgringo69]

Guys, I wish I had more legs to stand on here with more proof, pics, and data but I don't. I will say that last year that I pulled more than 2oz per plant in 3 gallon pots with almost zero veg time. That's not much but it's more than you are currently crediting this mix with being capable of.

 

[Dgringo69]

okay.. im

still gonna say it didn't mean for it to be mean but I'm telling you now the flower isn't going to be anything.

i wouldn't recommend it either.. but the point being that the above listed soil amendment real his fine and dandy for veg and a decently long veg but flower wise its almost a waste... i mean think about the new grower thats going to goole soil system and see the recipe and follow it get a shitty yeild or grow and either never grow again or talk shit about organic growing.. all because he didn't do it right from the beginning ... thats it..

Phil K I really appreciate the fact that you are thinking of the first timer here. I can tell you take this personally and passionately. You are right to question this mix. Seems to simple to believe. There is only one thing to do here..journal an extended grow on water only. Kushberry will be the strain. Outdoor.

 

[st0wandgrow]

Guys, I wish I had more legs to stand on here with more proof, pics, and data but I don't. I will say that last year that I pulled more than 2oz per plant in 3 gallon pots with almost zero veg time. That's not much but it's more than you are currently crediting this mix with being capable of.

I believe you. No need to defend yourself. Thank you for sharing.

 

[a mongo frog]

Phil K I really appreciate the fact that you are thinking of the first timer here. I can tell you take this personally and passionately. You are right to question this mix. Seems to simple to believe. There is only one thing to do here..journal an extended grow on water only. Kushberry will be the strain. Outdoor.

Your doing a great job dude. Fuck Phil, he's a know it all and puts people down. Keep doing what your doing and working with your mix. Sounds pretty fucking exciting to me!!!!

 

[greasemonkeymann]

I believe you. No need to defend yourself. Thank you for sharing.

i agree. You will be fine.

Guys, I wish I had more legs to stand on here with more proof, pics, and data but I don't. I will say that last year that I pulled more than 2oz per plant in 3 gallon pots with almost zero veg time. That's not much but it's more than you are currently crediting this mix with being capable of.

you don't need to convince anyone brother.