Mescaline in Cactuses

Njsurf14

Njsurf14

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Ok so i want to try peyote but i dont live in or near the desert.. But i found these cactuses called the Peruvian torch and the San Pedro cactus. these both contain mescaline... but when i type it into google it says i can buy them offlline

San Pedro Cactus - Google Search

Has any body ever had experiance with the San Pedro cactus or the Peruvian torch
 
kdox88

kdox88

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both are very nice. try ebay, they are on their all the time. they are usually cheaper than most shops.
another good one is trichocereus bridgesii. i haven't actually tried this particular one but i've heard it was awsome.
btw, san pedro and peruvian torch are also trichocereus. they are all very easy to grow and can sometimes be found at local nurseries, lowes, home depot, ect.

the tip is explained very well at www.erowid.org. just find the cactus vault. it will all be in their.
 
shadowlord

shadowlord

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kdox88 said:
both are very nice. try ebay, they are on their all the time. they are usually cheaper than most shops.
another good one is trichocereus bridgesii. i haven't actually tried this particular one but i've heard it was awsome.
btw, san pedro and peruvian torch are also trichocereus. they are all very easy to grow and can sometimes be found at local nurseries, lowes, home depot, ect.

the tip is explained very well at www.erowid.org. just find the cactus vault. it will all be in their.
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Just as kdox says, there are several of the Tricocherous family that contain the magic. The Peruvian Torch, the San Pedro and the Bridgesii are indeed the most common and are legal to own and grow. They grow very quickly and are not endangered like the peyote are from over-harvesting.
You can even find several reputable vendors online that sell dried chips of these Cacti.
I have tried Tea and ISO extract from these dried pieces and they are strong indeed.
Mescaline is well worth experiencing!
 
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kindprincess

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DO NOT BUY DRIED CACTUS FLESH!

trichs are a LEGAL right now!!! supporting these asinine vendors selling dried flesh is sure to help it become scheduled JUST LIKE PEYOTE AND POT :evil:

so don't do it. bad. i'd be in possession of a few truckloads of illegal substance.... :mrgreen:

trichs can be purchased on ebay, a better place to find what you want is botanicalswap.org.
 
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Njsurf14

Njsurf14

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how do you use it.. do you dry out the cactus skin or dose it flower and the flower has the mesocline ??
 
shadowlord

shadowlord

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Njsurf14 said:
how do you use it.. do you dry out the cactus skin or dose it flower and the flower has the mesocline ??
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You can cut in up fresh and boil it to make tea. Or you can dry it out and do an ISO extraction for mescaline freebase ( just like making hash oil ), Or you can dry it out ( or buy it dry ) and do an A/B extraction to get pure Mescaline. Lots of info on this subject at Mycotopia.net or Erowid.org.
 
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kindprincess

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Njsurf14 said:
Has anybody had any experiaces growing it or using it ??
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hundreds of thousands of people use it every day, san pedro is a landscaping cactus :p and grows in the southwest with near to no help from human hand... most do not indulge on the mesc factor, as it's very nasty to try and consume an extraction, and no trich will ever amount to a lophophora williamsii


this really isn't the right forum for cacti information (cactuses, lol). errowid or entheogen.com are much more suited for these kinds of questions; riu is for potheads :p
 
shadowlord

shadowlord

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But isn't this the Hallucinogens Forum?
And Mescaline is Mescaline. If you extracted from a L.Williamsii or S.Pedro you would just have a differing amount of mesc per weight.
Now if you are talking consuming the cacti or making a tea of it, then there would be a difference as there are potentiating alkaloids that differ in the different types of cacti that have the magic in them.
Many Potheads are also Psychonauts, so I see no reason to avoid discussing cacti on a cannabis site. Almost every cannabis site I have been to has a forum for hallucinogens. Just like there are forums for politics, what music you listen to, word association, the list goes on.
 
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kindprincess

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shadowlord said:
But isn't this the Hallucinogens Forum?
And Mescaline is Mescaline. If you extracted from a L.Williamsii or S.Pedro you would just have a differing amount of mesc per weight.
Now if you are talking consuming the cacti or making a tea of it, then there would be a difference as there are potentiating alkaloids that differ in the different types of cacti that have the magic in them.
Many Potheads are also Psychonauts, so I see no reason to avoid discussing cacti on a cannabis site. Almost every cannabis site I have been to has a forum for hallucinogens. Just like there are forums for politics, what music you listen to, word association, the list goes on.
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i didn't say avoid, i said "these are better"

look at the info in this thread. and others on this site similar. this is not a cactus forum, it's all of them. the site is for pot, this is an extra forum, and usually has pretty shitty if not bogus info. entheogen.com or errowid or the sacred cactus are much better sources for information.

i mean, going to riu for info about mesc extraction is like going to a mmj dispensary to learn how to make crack.....

and, you must not visit too many pot forums. MOST of them DO NOT have this subject, only a handful. most pot forums have to do with pot, and the "other" drugs aren't to interesting to the main stream on the site. now, on tripper sites, they rarely talk about pot, just acid, shrooms, cacti, etc. if you want pot info, find me on a pot forum. if you want cacti info, go where the info is. it's not here ;)

Cactus Discussion - Edot forums
http://www.entheogen.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=158
 
shadowlord

shadowlord

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Erowid, entheogen, Mycotopia,shroomery.
They are all great sites.
I probably wouldn't have found them if I didn't meet and talk to people in the Hallucinogens/Other plants forums.
So, no, I wouldn't come here to learn about these things. But it good to share info and point people in the right direction.

I hope you don't think I'm being argumentative K.P., Just making a point.
 
Angus

Angus

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If you go for the P. Torch, make sure you do an A/B or other extraction. I once ate 2 ounces of dried flesh and it was the single nastiest thing I've ever ingested. I'd rather drink 5 gallons of year old bongwater then do that again.

On the upside it was a great experience. Much calmer than LSD.
 
kdox88

kdox88

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kindprincess said:
look at the info in this thread. and others on this site similar. this is not a cactus forum, it's all of them. the site is for pot, this is an extra forum, and usually has pretty shitty if not bogus info. entheogen.com or errowid or the sacred cactus are much better sources for information.

http://www.entheogen.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=158
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i agree riu is not the best place to get info on hallucinogens, but their are plenty of people who know what their talkin about on here. but definitely check out some site and do some browsing on your own. most of the time you'll only learn some basics on riu, it will be worth your time to look this shit up on your own.
 
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SteamboatBudMan

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Njsurf14 said:
Ok so i want to try peyote but i dont live in or near the desert.. But i found these cactuses called the Peruvian torch and the San Pedro cactus. these both contain mescaline... but when i type it into google it says i can buy them offlline

San Pedro Cactus - Google Search

Has any body ever had experiance with the San Pedro cactus or the Peruvian torch
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I am going to buy some seeds offline, hit me via message and I'll give you the website, there are several website to tell you how to prepare said cactus after growing it.
 
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kindprincess

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SteamboatBudMan said:
I am going to buy some seeds offline, hit me via message and I'll give you the website, there are several website to tell you how to prepare said cactus after growing it.
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shamanic extracts and cactus plaza have done me decent on seeds. shamanic extracts seeds did not produce very well, about 10% germ rate. cactus plaza rolled out an awesome 70% germ rate, and very nice true to type plants indeed :)
 
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