Yeah you got it spot on bro! Devils worked hard to produce this for the Shoreline instead of going down the pollen chuck route
Originally it was supposed to come from Texas I think so they must be easily availble in the US...
I would like to know how you stabilize an S1 and why haven't this been done on all the clone only strains. I usually don't mess with s1 unless it's a clone strain that I couldn't get my hands on. Having beans like that is good cus you would never have to worry about having to keep moms. Just pop beans whenever you wanted. Very interestingYeah you got it spot on bro! Devils worked hard to produce this for the Shoreline instead of going down the pollen chuck route
Starbud by Hortilab is supposed to be another sure thing for S1 also, forget about Riot Seeds don't touch them they claim most are S1 but most people in the game know they are just a pure rip off company and talk pure BS
There are some serious books out there on breeding and goes very deep my friend had one cannot remember the name of it but it's was some hardcore botany to read up on...I'm sure s2 is even more guranteed stable seeing how they do it looked very long and time consuming but the end result worth it. Below is an extract I found explainging things in simple terms, once you start reading up it really can go over your head so you need to be really into it love your botany and love to be a perfectionist.
Damn bro that's some good as info fareal. I'm glad you posted it. I haven't read a whole lot on breeding but I know the basics and this was easy to understand as I love growing tremendously and learning everything I can about it so I see where they make s1 stable I just didnt think it would be simple like that. Not saying it's simple cus it's gonna take a massive pool selection to find the best plant the represents the traits your after just didn't think you would have to create s2 seeds and they would be homozygous. Wonder why more breeders haven't don't this on a lot of the specific clone only strains. This is def for another thread.There are some serious books out there on breeding and goes very deep my friend had one cannot remember the name of it but it's was some hardcore botany to read up on...I'm sure s2 is even more guranteed stable seeing how they do it looked very long and time consuming but the end result worth it. Below is an extract I found explainging things in simple terms, once you start reading up it really can go over your head so you need to be really into it love your botany and love to be a perfectionist.
Otherwise it really fries your brain lol
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The process employs father plants which are selected from long line-bred farmlines or IBL’s (Inbred Lines) that are known to be dominant for a specific trait, I.E light sensitivity, potency, fast flowering etc. These father lines are outcrossed to self pollinated elite cuts selected from stress tested poly-hybrid mothers which have been selected for other qualities such as exotic flavors, smells, or specific plant shapes or structures. As the original mother cuts are not true breeding because of their polyhybrid nature they take them though a 2 time self pollination process(s2) to obtain homogeneity, heavily stress testing a selection before they ever meet the pollen studs. For those who do not understand the “selfing” process it means a female plant is chemically sex reversed allowing it to pollinate itself resulting in s1 seed generation-One common misconception is that this process will result in identical phenos exactly like their mother plant -however in reality recessive traits can still be hiding with variation occurring among sibling seeds so this process must be repeated with the adequate s1 seed to achieve more homogeneous s2 seeds. Stress tested s2’s of excellent mothers are breeding gold as they are homozygous for all traits seen in the s1 individual selection.
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Probably best to start up another thread on Breeding so we don't clog up this one as it goes on forever
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shoreline from tex is the REAL DEAL... sooo LOUD...
yes forget about RIOT SEEDS... i wouldnt touch them with a 100ft pole... the main reason why i got them, cuz he used to be affiliated with gggforget about Riot Seeds don't touch them they claim most are S1 but most people in the game know they are just a pure rip off company and talk pure BS
Thanks for that, gives me some idea of what I should be doing with the fireballs. If you can think of that book name, or other's you'd suggest would love to add them to the reading listThere are some serious books out there on breeding and goes very deep my friend had one cannot remember the name of it but it's was some hardcore botany to read up on...I'm sure s2 is even more guranteed stable seeing how they do it looked very long and time consuming but the end result worth it. Below is an extract I found explainging things in simple terms, once you start reading up it really can go over your head so you need to be really into it love your botany and love to be a perfectionist.
Otherwise it really fries your brain lol
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The process employs father plants which are selected from long line-bred farmlines or IBL’s (Inbred Lines) that are known to be dominant for a specific trait, I.E light sensitivity, potency, fast flowering etc. These father lines are outcrossed to self pollinated elite cuts selected from stress tested poly-hybrid mothers which have been selected for other qualities such as exotic flavors, smells, or specific plant shapes or structures. As the original mother cuts are not true breeding because of their polyhybrid nature they take them though a 2 time self pollination process(s2) to obtain homogeneity, heavily stress testing a selection before they ever meet the pollen studs. For those who do not understand the “selfing” process it means a female plant is chemically sex reversed allowing it to pollinate itself resulting in s1 seed generation-One common misconception is that this process will result in identical phenos exactly like their mother plant -however in reality recessive traits can still be hiding with variation occurring among sibling seeds so this process must be repeated with the adequate s1 seed to achieve more homogeneous s2 seeds. Stress tested s2’s of excellent mothers are breeding gold as they are homozygous for all traits seen in the s1 individual selection.
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Probably best to start up another thread on Breeding so we don't clog up this one as it goes on forever
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Thank's Hamish
Found some online versions might be useful and free
You remember @mycomaster also had severe digestive issues. He used to make canna sweeties, but ended up swearing by home made shatter in capsules, and that is from having to smoke a joint before and straight after eating just to hold it down to what sounds like a much better quality of living. Something special about eating versus smoking.Thank's Hamish
An interesting thing is I had stomach issues up until about December of this year. I made a batch of pot cookies, with cannabutter, and my stomach has been great since. I think I may have ate 4-5 cookies over the course of a week. I went from spending $50 a month on probiotics for the last 2 years to taking nothing at all and feeling great.
Ah... that is nothing. Slight burn in the tips in non-organic rigs simply means you are pushing the girls right to the end of their envelope and not going over. This is why we keep saying it, magic fingers you have there...
Wonder if he's switched over to the Rosin tech. It's getting me blasted smoking it. I wonder what eating a whole cap would do. I might give that a try lol.
Exactly what I was gonna say. Slight tip burn means your pushing them to be max. It can happen from the soil drying out but I doubt that's where it's from. They look fine. If you feel the nutes are too much then do a plain water watering the next time. Feed and plain water schedule but I would just keep doing what your doing @Flaming Pie just like Hamish and all of us have been saying magic touch
haha. Well I am having some slight leaf drop that looks like the plant using up her reserve inner leaves that don't get as much light.
I find when I hit the sweet spot (like a week ago) if I pull all nutes they go deficient.
You know your stuff so I believe it's just right over the edge line. Solo cup might not be enough now that they're further along but I'm sure they still will go deficient one you begin to flush
Yeah I am just gonna pull back a bit. from .9 tsp to .8 tsp. Top with a bit of EWC to reduce surface evaporation a bit so the plant has more water to take in with nutes.