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808newb
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Looks like I found a use for these Popsicle sticks...the colas on these sati as want to bunch together...
The whole lower part of my Malawi is golden.
Yea, I was thinking that too, but it's on all my flowering plants only. I discovered a really small outbreak on the tip of one of the buds on the CG but I nipped it in the bud so to speak and no other signs of mites. It's on the Malawi, on my Kali Mist which I just got back into veg but only on the leaves below the new veg growth. I just didn't know if it could be something else. Just weird. The leave just look like one of my males do after they release a lot of pollen...looks like just golden pollen on the leaves but this stuff doesn't wash off and not any evidence of mites. With all the vog we're getting this year, just wondering if it could be acid rain causing it.
The whole lower part of my Malawi is golden.
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rikdabrick
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Hey HiloReign, I think chazbolin who frequents the Inda-gro thread; link here http://rollitup.org/p/11624508/ was growing in aquaponics. I believe he said it's great for growing cannabis, but there's some nutrient (micro-nutrient I think) that it lacks that you need to add for cannabis to be able to really shine. If it's not him someone in the Inda-gro thread would know who it is. That's where I saw the guys set-up.
rikdabrick
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Colombian Gold was named as such because the buds cured to a gold color, either from genetics, drying condition or from ringing the plant while it was still alive. I don't know which one, but the buds were gold. You can make gold buds too with a hot dry room, not that you would want to.
I would say HiloReign called it right about looking like mite damage, but I'm not a diagnosis expert. Check out the stickies in the plant problems section. ICMag has good plant problems stickies too. They are full of useful diagnosis information.
And are you talking about the first pic in this post ^ that you're flushing it and waiting for more amber trichs? That plant doesn't look very close to being done with flowering. It's still shooting out pistils all over the place. Also just FYI, some if not most, far leaning sativa plants won't develop amber trichs unless they're damaged. They'll just turn milky.
Neem oil does smell, but I've never noticed it while smoking nor have I ever had anyone mention noticing the buds having a neem oil taste and I've sprayed up until a week before harvest. I usually only do a light spray near the end of flowering. I believe I read a few years ago that both neem oil and dish soap break down quickly in sunlight and get washed off in rain, which I get plenty of both in my area. I don't know how bad it is to smoke neem oil residue. And I don't know how effective it is for botrytis, but I don't get any problems from bot (in an area where we get 70-90"+ of rain per year) so maybe it helps. It at least helps to keep bugs at bay and most of my bud mold problems start with bug attacks. I do think the potassium silicate helps with mold and bug attacks though.
But I was mostly talking about using neem as a soil drench. I spray it and water it in
Cool use for the popsicle sticks. See all those little lower and inner buds? Personally I'd cut them off. They won't produce much and the plant is wasting energy (IMO) trying to grow those and the rest of the big buds. It looks like you are still in early enough flower to cut them off and still have plenty of time for the plant to focus on making buds that won't end up in the hash/oil bag.
Hmmm, I guess acid rain could be a culprit to consider.
Good taste too. I have Malawi and Kali Mist growing also.
Any chance your Malawi isn't getting enough nitrogen? Or is rootbound? Not getting enough water? Any of those can cause lower leaves to yellow and die. If you got it from Ace Seeds then it may need more nitrogen. Most landrace sativas don't need a lot of nutrients, but the Malawi from Ace is a heavy feeder for a landrace sativa. It's not actually a real heavy feeder like some other strains, just heavy for a landrace sativa. Dubi (owner/breeder from Ace Seeds) actually said that too.
808newb
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Thanks HiloReign & Rikdabrick for your thoughts...they are probably right on. When I think of mites I think spider mites, not even giving much thought to the other mites that attack cannabis. I went on a recommendation from the local nursery here and the guy sold me sum organicide and I just read the active ingredient is sesame seed oil so not too sure on how effective it is against other types of mites. I know for a fact that it works on contact for spider mites. I only had 1 small spot of bot and it was where I found the very big innings of a colony, about the size of a dime.
As for the finish in time on the CG, that was one of those very bottom branches that I never got around to cutting. It was just that it had the most of gold and green leaves I was trying to show. This morning...
I'm so used to chopping early I suppose due to always getting bot in the last couple weeks that I also don't want to press my luck. I set them all out the week of March 21st thinking they'd be safe from flowering and because they were taking over the veg room. So when they did start flowering I decided to up my game and start putting them in a dark room with a dehumidifier at night and under clear cover by day....has made all the difference in the world keeping the bot and other molds away. The tropical mix I just leave out in the weather and it's pretty much bulletproof and it pretty much rains at some point every friggin day.. I don't get home from work until after dark and I set the plants back out right before I leave for work in the morning so not much time for attention to them during the week. It's a job in itself just moving these twice a day lol.
On a different note tho, sent the wife out to score a sack and she comes back with a bag that has "purple duck's foot" wrote on it. Never heard if it, but I like growing odd things and this is supposed to be a stealth plant in veg because it just looks like so many other things at first glance because the leaves are all webbed.
I thought it was pretty cool but the purple kine is tasty but no punch. Maybe I see another project in the future...
As for the finish in time on the CG, that was one of those very bottom branches that I never got around to cutting. It was just that it had the most of gold and green leaves I was trying to show. This morning...
I'm so used to chopping early I suppose due to always getting bot in the last couple weeks that I also don't want to press my luck. I set them all out the week of March 21st thinking they'd be safe from flowering and because they were taking over the veg room. So when they did start flowering I decided to up my game and start putting them in a dark room with a dehumidifier at night and under clear cover by day....has made all the difference in the world keeping the bot and other molds away. The tropical mix I just leave out in the weather and it's pretty much bulletproof and it pretty much rains at some point every friggin day.. I don't get home from work until after dark and I set the plants back out right before I leave for work in the morning so not much time for attention to them during the week. It's a job in itself just moving these twice a day lol.
On a different note tho, sent the wife out to score a sack and she comes back with a bag that has "purple duck's foot" wrote on it. Never heard if it, but I like growing odd things and this is supposed to be a stealth plant in veg because it just looks like so many other things at first glance because the leaves are all webbed.
I thought it was pretty cool but the purple kine is tasty but no punch. Maybe I see another project in the future...
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kaloconnection
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Hey 808newb, I've been having good results using two 1000 lumen solar flood lamps to interrupt the night cycle and keep my plants in veg. They run ~$30-$40 off amazon and I just turn them on around 11:30 at night and they stay on till morning but are pretty dim by then.
I used to bring my plants inside and out, just to take advantage of the sun and save money on electricity but it got to be too much work and my plants are too big for my t5. You can also use a couple cfl's to do the same thing and interrupt the night cycle or extend evenings/mornings to keep your plants in veg.
I've never had luck getting plants to veg through the summer outside, so this system works for me and you cant beat the energy savings. My buddy is paying an extra $240/month to run a 1k watt Light to veg 14 plants, my total house only uses $110 with a washer and dryer.
I used to bring my plants inside and out, just to take advantage of the sun and save money on electricity but it got to be too much work and my plants are too big for my t5. You can also use a couple cfl's to do the same thing and interrupt the night cycle or extend evenings/mornings to keep your plants in veg.
I've never had luck getting plants to veg through the summer outside, so this system works for me and you cant beat the energy savings. My buddy is paying an extra $240/month to run a 1k watt Light to veg 14 plants, my total house only uses $110 with a washer and dryer.
kaloconnection
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yes, That is true. I havent found a way to set my solar lights on a timer yet to turn themselves off so I just let them run instead of staying up all night to turn them off. I figure any instability issues that might arise will get sorted out once I let the plants flower and the light schedule returns to normal. The growth I'm seeing after two weeks is impressive for a couple little solar lights.
I've kinda taken it as a personal challenge to see how little money I can spend to grow my herb and still produce quality and quantity.
kaloconnection
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This is a before and after, a little under two weeks when I took the second pic. They'd be a lot taller if I didnt keep topping everything.
kaloconnection
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I'm trying to come up with an easy system for people on limited budgets to grow their own. Our electric rates are around $0.45/kwh, highest in the nation, so anything to lower peoples cost as well as lower their carbon footprint is a good thing.
I believe majority of our power in Hawaii still comes from burning coal.
I believe majority of our power in Hawaii still comes from burning coal.
HiloReign
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If you're looking to save electricity look towards LEDs... On a budget then DIY~
I also use the gas lantern routine to veg my plants (12on-5 1/2 off- 1 on- 5 1/2 off) and only sensitive cultivars will flower under those circumstances (I haven't had any flower on me yet). If you're growing outside, Surfdout recommended these solar lights that kick on for a few hours after the sun goes down... I'm sure you could find something along those lines.
Feeling adventurous then go foraging for amendments...
I also use the gas lantern routine to veg my plants (12on-5 1/2 off- 1 on- 5 1/2 off) and only sensitive cultivars will flower under those circumstances (I haven't had any flower on me yet). If you're growing outside, Surfdout recommended these solar lights that kick on for a few hours after the sun goes down... I'm sure you could find something along those lines.
Feeling adventurous then go foraging for amendments...
Philipthetank
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Wassup hawaii growers got a little update on my plant
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rikdabrick
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Hey it's looking happy Phillip, good job brah, you'll get the hang of this quick. What strain is that?
rikdabrick
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I don't know about HELCO, but I'm pretty sure MECO uses diesel generators mostly for our power here. I believe power prices actually went down this year for all island except Molokai because the oil prices dropped; savor the moment, HECO/HELCO/MECO doesn't drop their prices very often. We are still close to 4 times the national average though so you don't have to savor it much
rikdabrick
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We're on the same page, I'm building some CREE CXB3590 5000K veg lights and I use the gas lantern routine too. I haven't had any flower on me either using the gas lantern routine.
Here's the solar powered floodlights you were referring to:
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200621188_200621188
HiloReign
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Sounds like a solid gig rik!
For what it's worth, the 5000k cct works great for veg and it is as efficient as COBs come (IMO not a bad choice). Though, if you stepped down to 4000k you could easily veg/flower under those (even though you'll be losing a small % of light emitted and will need more wattage). The 5k will lack the punch (red/farred/not too much blue etc.) you need for heavy flowers. If you're just vegging you'll be golden. Just something for you to think about (if you haven't already
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Those solar lights are PERFECT for vegging plants outside.. Thanks for pulling them up~
@Philipthetank
Plant looks green and growing my friend~
For what it's worth, the 5000k cct works great for veg and it is as efficient as COBs come (IMO not a bad choice). Though, if you stepped down to 4000k you could easily veg/flower under those (even though you'll be losing a small % of light emitted and will need more wattage). The 5k will lack the punch (red/farred/not too much blue etc.) you need for heavy flowers. If you're just vegging you'll be golden. Just something for you to think about (if you haven't already
).Those solar lights are PERFECT for vegging plants outside.. Thanks for pulling them up~
@Philipthetank
Plant looks green and growing my friend~
