bizfactory
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USA! So no in person help but everyone here is great about helping out if you want to go the DIY route. Shipping to South Africa might be a problem though, not sure about that part.
Help choosing an LED replacement for 1000HPS?
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cityworker415
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Optic vero,A51,Onyx bloom any cob build my votes.
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Rahz
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That's great. A lot of peeps come here and make their first post about the new LED they just bought.
If you want to work out rough but usable comparisons between LEDs you need to figure out their efficiency in lumens. There are better ways of measuring but lumen is an industry standard. If you can ID the emitters or COBs used you can look up the datasheet and figure out the LPW. IMO anything under 120 isn't worth messing with and that rules out most single diode lamps beyond the ones mentioned.
As far as spectrum, it's not really an established science and plants seem to do well with a mix of colors or white (mix of colors). Having X number of spectrums or all red/blue isn't a magic bullet. Wattage and lumens per watt (ultimately PAR) is what drives photosynthesis.
Getting above the 120 LPW mark, you're looking at being able to reduce the wattage vs HPS. At around 130 LPW a 600w LED is coming close to even with 1000w HPS, though I would suggest around 800-900 watts if you really want to surpass the bulb. I think 600 is plenty for a 4x4 as a replacement for a 600w HPS and 8-900 in a 5x5 as a replacement for a 1000w. Of course, some DIY lamps achieve 150-160 LPW and in that case a 600 could reasonably cover a 5x5.
Getting deeper into the math you can figure out the PPFD for any particular lamp in a particular space and measure the output vs the sun. If you are inclined to build stuff, you can DIY the lamp and get whatever LPW you want for less than the cost of retail.
puffenuff
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From your list, the black dog or advanced would be your best options. Outside of that, the Apache tech AT600 is what I'd get.
Thanks dj, 26-28c is pretty good I thought, if you added a fan above the canopy or towards the bulb the temps would be even better. Sounds like its more than possible to use a 1000w in a 4x4 tent. Im currently growing auto Durban Poison's...im sure you know all about this strain lol
djweed420
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Yeah I've thought about adding a fan at the top, I'll look into that thanks.
Yes I'm very familiar with DP
One of the best local weed around. It's hard to get really good quality sometimes cos there's so much other local sub grade stuff floating around. You got to know the right people to get it. Not sure how it compares to DP up there but this is the original lol. Swazi is really good and more easily available and probably one of the strongest natural strains in SA. I've got some good Swazi seeds that I'm contemplating doing an indoor grow with, that should be interesting!
JimmyIndica
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I would buy none of the above. 4x4 1000watt replacement would be 4 - optic lighting 200watt vero29 3000K - I am using one now and works great.
Darth Vapour
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has anyone looked at Lush lighting ?? i keep seeing some grow bud shots looks well pretty dam impressive
JimmyIndica
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unless you DIY best new tech is opticlighting,A51LED next month???
LUSH/VIPAR/ADVANCED are poopy! I use KINDK5750 and it was 1st light! But kind is poop! Those companies use way more watts needed for area covered! and most are shit componets!
LUSH/VIPAR/ADVANCED are poopy! I use KINDK5750 and it was 1st light! But kind is poop! Those companies use way more watts needed for area covered! and most are shit componets!
JimmyIndica
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You want the big buds= Vero29/Cree CXA/CXB 3k for straight flower and 4k for full cycle! doesn't get much easier than that! For the lighting that is! use 800 watts in the 4x4 to maximize the potential of area!
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captainmorgan
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If your not up to DIY I would wait for the Area 51 COB light using Vero 2's. Jeff the owner has said his price point will be great and they're in production now so it shouldn't be to much longer,I'll be getting some as soon they become available.
JimmyIndica
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whats up capn? I been over on a51 forum. are we gonna get 1st dibs over there?
captainmorgan
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Not sure if any or how many will be set aside for anyone,it may just be first come, first serve if demand is high on the release. It may also depend on how many he gets in with the first shipment.
JimmyIndica
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yeah I just wait in line. I gotta get 400watts in the next month. probably gonna go optic and catch up with A51 this fall.
djweed420
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I'm not familiar at all with what you just suggested. I think I need to keep doing my research! Thanks.
Darth Vapour
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but does it give you 2.5 to 3 pounds dry harvest that is what people should be lookin at when comparing it to a 1000 is yield never mind effciency
djweed420
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Hey captainmorgan thanks for stopping by in my thread. I've looked up Area 51 and they look like great lights even though I don't quite understand the use of only white and red LED, but I'm sure they've done their research.
Unfortunately I've also seen that Area 51 won't ship to my country, so that option is out..
djweed420
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I've also been following another thread where @Greengenes707 is planning releasing his own LED. I'm keen to see more info on that!
@Greengenes707 can you share some more info please?
@Greengenes707 can you share some more info please?
REALSTYLES
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captainmorgan
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Area 51 RW's can be used for veg and flower. For veg you run just the whites and flower you add the reds,separate switches.
What Country are you in?
They do ship to Europe,New Zealand and Australia but you have to call for a shipping quote.
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