Help choosing an LED replacement for 1000HPS?

a mongo frog

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price is about the only point but if you are pulling down pounds it's really not much of a cost in all honesty the people on the consumer end pay a lot more for a lot less
You have no idea what your talking about. Your so lost on fantasy island you wouldn't know the cost of farms pulling down as you say "pounds". I know your cool, but fuck.....
 

Darth Vapour

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i see people pushing there crap for a lot more then that on this site who are"warehouse" growers and I'd never pay more then 2 for a pound in my life but they get by great again it's not that much money i don't understand what your hang up is people like you probably piss that money away in much more useless ways cuz you make so much weed and your high and mighty on yourself i bet you your car is with a lot more
oh yeah piss it away :) all the time :) for better equity
 

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KarmaPaymentPlan

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You have no idea what your talking about. Your so lost on fantasy island you wouldn't know the cost of farms pulling down as you say "pounds". I know your cool, but fuck.....
lol whatever i live in the pnw so many people do it out here it's not even funny I've trimmed for state and i house sit for friends I've met people from my age through 80 and those old timers know there shit you are just having a rough time of the month so you just go deal with that and not try and take me down
 

Rahz

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would love to see what a LED plant looks like 30 days old from clone

PS Please note your not going to find it View attachment 3436348
Why shouldn't LED be able to veg a bush in a month? Please provide relevant facts if you can.

I veg clones to 2.5x2.5' in 21 days... that's corner to corner. Might take 30 days in soil since I run hydro, but the point still stands. Some of the things you say make no sense. You also seem to lump all LED in the same pile which is a mistake. It makes it sound like you don't know what you're talking about.
 

a mongo frog

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lol whatever i live in the pnw so many people do it out here it's not even funny I've trimmed for state and i house sit for friends I've met prior from my age through 80 and those old times know there shit you are just having a rough time of the month so you just go deal with that and not try and take me down
Ok so i was wrong. My bad. Its just i felt the way you were talking you had no idea. You know what a trim bill cost a good farmer to get quality trimmers, so why do you throw out such claims of all this money and fortune of a total change of a lamp system is like no big deal? You get paid great as a trimmer, most likely around 200 a day, and at times your there for 7 days along with 2 other dudes and that hot hippy girl. And thats just the start of it. Again I'm sorry for judging you wrong, really i am. I just don't see your math adding up is all.
 

KarmaPaymentPlan

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Ok so i was wrong. My bad. Its just i felt the way you were talking you had no idea. You know what a trim bill cost a good farmer to get quality trimmers, so why do you throw out such claims of all this money and fortune of a total change of a lamp system is like no big deal? You get paid great as a trimmer, most likely around 200 a day, and at times your there for 7 days along with 2 other dudes and that hot hippy girl. And thats just the start of it. Again I'm sorry for judging you wrong, really i am. I just don't see your math adding up is all.
no you don't make that much unless you know the right people and you can't make that through the state yet i do what i do usual for product and that's why i started cuz i pay myself better
 

KarmaPaymentPlan

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Why shouldn't LED be able to veg a bush in a month? Please provide relevant facts if you can.

I veg clones to 2.5x2.5' in 21 days... that's corner to corner. Might take 30 days in soil since I run hydro, but the point still stands. Some of the things you say make no sense. You also seem to lump all LED in the same pile which is a mistake. It makes it sound like you don't know what you're talking about.
lol then stand up for t5ho those suck more money down then led i know cause t5 is what i got my dad started on
 

Rahz

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Best post in this hole thread i am not against tech shit i run some new tech have even spoke to these people

https://iponic.link4cloud.com/

And possibly upgrading to iponic 624 from my 600 for just that 2 room control in one with more options ... i also been looking at gorilla 5 x 9 grow tent who knows one day loaded with LED's or COBS or probably something better then COB
Also i believe that the way LED is going Cob will be outdated as fast as them 5 watt / 10 watt LED units ...

But anyways back to the LED and still waiting on what they are doing to stop the corrosion on the heat sinks from possibly high humidity in grow rooms fans are sucking humid temps right into the internals :)
5 years from now, it will be time to replace the emitters, not the lamp. Couple hundred buck to upgrade to whatever the best is. Heatsinks are made from aluminum, and when anodized they can last longer than my life. Mine are passively cooled, no fans, but I've started working on 2nd gen with aluminum enclosures. I hope to go retail eventually and would offer 5 year upgrade packages. Just like anything else there will be cheap and quality options.
 

a mongo frog

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both it's legal here! But the recreational shit sucks and it's overpriced
But the sick people are not purchasing rec marijuana are they? My only concern is medical marijuana. Ive seen Washington's rec marijuana. its nothing nice. Can people do med patient to med patient work?
 

KarmaPaymentPlan

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But the sick people are not purchasing rec marijuana are they? My only concern is medical marijuana. Ive seen Washington's rec marijuana. its nothing nice. Can people do med patient to med patient work?
i think so they keep changing it around they are trying to squash the medicine side hard it's all about the benjamins and people are scared of not being able to afford it and the fact that it's "safe" the state's aloud to use some gnarly chemicals from what i understand
 

Rahz

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lol then stand up for t5ho those suck more money down then led i know cause t5 is what i got my dad started on
I started with T5. Switching to LED yields went from .65 gpw to 1.2-1.35 gpw. I don't consider myself to be a good grower, but that would apply equally to CLF/LED.
 

Darth Vapour

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Why shouldn't LED be able to veg a bush in a month? Please provide relevant facts if you can.

I veg clones to 2.5x2.5' in 21 days... that's corner to corner. Might take 30 days in soil since I run hydro, but the point still stands. Some of the things you say make no sense. You also seem to lump all LED in the same pile which is a mistake. It makes it sound like you don't know what you're talking about.
Thats awesome you got any pictures ?? here week one to week 4 veg under current and going into flower end of week 5 from clone and flipped so start of week 6 b dialed room 1750 ppm C02 reading ambient temps 88 leaf temps 85
RH 80, 1150 ppm EC 2.3- 2.4 hanna scale
 

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a mongo frog

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Thats awesome you got any pictures ?? here week one to week 4 veg under current and going into flower end of week 5 from clone and flipped so start of week 6 b dialed room 1750 ppm C02 reading ambient temps 88 leaf temps 85
RH 80, 1150 ppm EC 2.3- 2.4 hanna scale
Do you keep the rh so high cuz of vpd?
 

Darth Vapour

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correct mongo we need to get it at equilibrium,, air that attains its saturation vapour will in fact have equal amount of water molecules evapourating from the surface water to the air and vice versa water molecules from the air back to the water :) perfect balance
 

a mongo frog

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correct mongo we need to get it at equilibrium,, air that attains its saturation vapour will in fact have equal amount of water molecules evapourating from the surface water to the air and vice versa water molecules from the air back to the water :) perfect balance
I had so much trouble doing that (High temps with high RH). Maybe my temps weren't high enough, i was just so scared to run at 85 degrees. Co2 was such a learning curve for me. Many sleepless nights. At one point i had my phone alarm set for every 3 hours to go check the room.
 

captainmorgan

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Almost 5 weeks of veg from clone under LED. I even whacked off a few lower branches to pot her deeper into her final pot,also did a major trim clean up before this pic,3x3 screen.


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Rahz

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Thats awesome you got any pictures ?? here week one to week 4 veg under current and going into flower end of week 5 from clone and flipped so start of week 6 b dialed room 1750 ppm C02 reading ambient temps 88 leaf temps 85
RH 80, 1150 ppm EC 2.3- 2.4 hanna scale
No, but it's not really that impressive. Similar can be done under CFL. Flower potential is a different story.
 
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