Help choosing an LED replacement for 1000HPS?

[Darth Vapour]

Because you aren't following what someone else intended you to by buying "chem super secret sauce A, B, C, veg booster, bud master blaster" right? LMAO

I said it before but you really drive the point home better than anyone I know of... You can't convince stupid that they're stupid.

like i said 800 posts you got and 200 likes lol please do show us your organic grown plant do you use teas ?? you top dress ??? i grow organic and guess what we sterilize all our soil before and in fall again something
and you talk 1/4 re amendments ?? is this something you read ?? or follow as the law
How in the Fuck do you know how much is needed after soil has been used???
You got any soil analysis there stupid i do have a look again DUMMY look at micro def in soil DUMMY you know how much is in your soil ???

 

[guod]

I daresay you are not missing anything when it comes to BML. I have been skeptical about the cooling design since it is low-surface area passive cooled and using red LEDs. Greengenes confirmed it was running hot (80C?) which really punishes the output of red leds, junction temp is their kryptonite. With a case temp of 60C they likely have a junction temp of 75C. That is 35% temp droop from ambient.

use the right one...

 

[Darth Vapour]

owe here dummy the old soil test look like its climbing back to desired levels still got a ways to go but hey Brix is Brix ...

 

[HiloReign]

I almost died when you said you sterilize your "organic" soil LOL. When amended correctly, nutrients exist in excess and are tied-up (then later made available when they die etc.) by the life of the soil. Humic matter acts as a buffer against disease, pests, plant ailments... You don't have an active SFW because you kill them all intentionally. There's a whole forum based on the concepts of living organic soil and how it works. Yes, I am a follower (proud to be) of these growers who have been using living organic soil for twice as long as I've been alive successfully.

You sir, have your head way too far up your ass to realize it doesn't need to be as complicated as analyzing soil tests and sterilizing your soil (even though tests have already been done). Keep shelling out your cash for unnecessary bullshit and your "organic" grows won't be so expensive. Picking up a book or reading something from a credible source would be a good start for you.

I'm glad you took the time to look at my profile, it shows how much you care <3

 

[Darth Vapour]

that is correct that is really how the pros do it there for no bad pathogens insect eggs or any other bad disease occurs , once sterilized we bring it back to life, and in fall all products that did not sell all soll gets sterilized
That is how to be a successful business and have loyal and repeat customers so go and tend to your gnat and aphid infested garden

 

[AquariusPanta]

use the right one...
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I like Bridgelux's graph better; it looks like someone actually put some effort into the diagram!

I'm surprised at how resilient the Oslon deep reds are against hot temperatures!

 

[Darth Vapour]

i love playing with kids like you seriously, i bet your living in your parents basement,, and card board box growing,,, and a pro at it hahaha now that is halarious
you really do not have a fucking clue here kiddo water feed only and true LOS living organic soil no top dressing no teas just water

 

[Darth Vapour]

I like Bridgelux's graph better; it looks like someone actually put some effort into the diagram!

I'm surprised at how resilient the Oslon deep reds are against hot temperatures!

got a question if a person was to do a DIY COB set up would it be wise to order double the COBS same lot number there fore when said person decides to make another one they be pretty much the same paired units ??? just wondering
fuck i just might try making one have a best friend that is a tin worker so i know i would have the box made and look top notch
so now i am wondering order 24 cobs
make a 12 cob unit 10 inches a part so 40 x 40 12 cobs used what would be the power ??
and instead of 180 lens do they make them 90 ??? or just 120 / 180

 

[HiloReign]

Yes because a starter plant business and cannabis soil mixes must be one in the same. Sterilization of organic soil... LMFAO you're too good.

I don't need to tend to my garden because the SFW is doing it for me, thanks for the advice. Though it may be time for you to bust out the eagle-20 for everything you see that moves in your garden, don't forget to dump it all out and literally cook your mix when you're done btw...

You've seem to really taken an interest in me and that's great and all, but I don't have much more patience to babysit you. You can talk about my past like it makes a difference to me, I'm assuming it's helping you to feel better about how little you seem to really know. For such an experienced grower, it must be tough being told by a "kiddo" such as myself what you're doing wrong. It's ok, the internet will continue to grant you anonymity so you can avoid any IRL shame.

PS Since you're so fancy for "likes", look at our exchange and then do some counting. It MUST mean something right?

 

[Positivity]

Since when do you have to be a professional to grow weed?

Lol...

Professional joker schmoker...

 

[Darth Vapour]

WTF you talking about its only clowns like your self rein lol making it hard to grow a fucking weed
PS: still waiting on at least one pictures of any plant you grown ??? put up or shut up better yet beat it

 

[SupraSPL]

use the right one...
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Good call guod, but apparently we need both. Assuming the BML website i sup to date, they use 67% LH-CP7P and 13% LR-CP7P. Huge difference in thermal performance between the two, the 660nm stands up much better to heat, although 10% temp droop is not very good either.

Major difference in the 2 charts you posted, one is junction temp and one is case temp.

 

[Darth Vapour]

Since when do you have to be a professional to grow weed?

Lol...

Professional joker schmoker...

Hey being a professional only makes for better healthier plants do you not agree ?? like saying a person that is growing his first grow ever is just as good as a person on his 50 th grow /???
or do you think to blindly add amendments into a soil is the way to go ???
could this be the real reason why ??? sure people add amendments yet 2 months later plants are starving to death nd top dressing and teas are needed to the plant to the finish line ??? Could this be the reason why Farmers change crops every few years as to not deplete the soils to bad grow corn on same land for 5 years see what happens

 

[HiloReign]

You've said one thing that made sense this whole time and that's right after you assumed you knew what I was talking about. A properly prepared LOS mix only needs water.
"making it hard to grow a fucking weed" says the sterilizing, soil testing pea-brain who doesn't understand (or know) what the SFW is.

Here's some LOS grown dank broseph~

 

[Darth Vapour]

Of course your not going to post a picture by the way nice picture of yourself and by the way starting to smell BS in here you better go change your diaper

 

[SupraSPL]

got a question if a person was to do a DIY COB set up would it be wise to order double the COBS same lot number there fore when said person decides to make another one they be pretty much the same paired units ??? just wondering
fuck i just might try making one have a best friend that is a tin worker so i know i would have the box made and look top notch
so now i am wondering order 24 cobs
make a 12 cob unit 10 inches a part so 40 x 40 12 cobs used what would be the power ??
and instead of 180 lens do they make them 90 ??? or just 120 / 180

Unless the top bins became scarce, you would be OK to order only what you need. But lately thanks to Kingbrite, we have been able to get top bins almost on command. No worries about matching them in terms of color temp, a little variety is probably a good thing in this case. Also it is possible that higher bins will be available and/or prices drop.

For CXA/B3070 size the 44mm 60 degree lenses fit well. They are about 77 degrees in practice. For the larger COBs Vero29 and CXA/B3590, the 50mm 90 degree lens fits well.

You could run CXB3590s at 50W each and if you can get 36V class top bin 3000K for a fair price, ery high efficiency (51.7%) and a good match with one of the best drivers, Mean Well HLG-185H-C1400. So 12 of those would dissipate 600W and would use (3) drivers. You could use 3500K or 4000K, although I have not tested that yet many others have.

 

[AquariusPanta]

got a question if a person was to do a DIY COB set up would it be wise to order double the COBS same lot number there fore when said person decides to make another one they be pretty much the same paired units ??? just wondering
fuck i just might try making one have a best friend that is a tin worker so i know i would have the box made and look top notch
so now i am wondering order 24 cobs
make a 12 cob unit 10 inches a part so 40 x 40 12 cobs used what would be the power ??
and instead of 180 lens do they make them 90 ??? or just 120 / 180

There's a lot to consider but you're in luck; a bunch of COB-infused lighting fixtures, including Heaven Bright's Model-V, are entering the market this month and next! Well, maybe not a bunch.. but some good ones to say the least!

 

[Darth Vapour]

so that means a true 600 watts being used ???? 90's and 120s i think i would go with also mixture 4k and 6k
reason i asked about lot bins as its mentioned everywhere in LED ..
i am curious on cost of one i might just build on with the obvious help from everyone if i haven't pissed on there corn flakes but fck yea 4 k and 6 k mix it has to be

 

[HiloReign]

We've got a comedian amongst us guys and he's dishing out mad burnz! Like we're the beneficial microbiology and he's doing the cooking~

Good luck with those 6k COBs, with how angry you are one would think you pissed in your own corn flakes~

Luckily for you Supra is more than just the local expert...

 

[djweed420]

Wow it amazes me how side tracked a thread can get hahaha

Getting back into LED... I've been reading Supra and Greengene's threads which have really helped me a lot in terms of LED knowledge. The more I read the more interested I am in building my own LED fixture. My only issue would be finding local suppliers or suppliers that will ship to SA.

Would having an equal mix of 3k and 4k COB be a good idea or recommended? I'm also thinking of if it would be good to add some 630 and 660 LED to the COB to help out during flowering...