is big bud just a marketing scam?

Day to Daze

Active Member
dont get me wrong i have never grow big bud myself... but its on my next grow im going to grow out 20 AK48 and 20 Big Bud under 4 600w hps..

innitaly i was going for big bud but i would like to compare it to another nice strain to see if the loss of potency compared to weight is worth it .. i would hate to grow out 2kilos and find that i cant move it as well as other strains.

again ive never grown it but when i see the supposid weights on plants *what is it like 4oz compared to a normal 2 when vegged for the same time* i wonder if i can grow similar wights with the right conditions with say AK48 or if the big bud hype is just a marketing aid....

is it as baddass as they say when it comes to yeild and if so how does the smoke rate alongside other strains..

it would be a big help for anyones 2 cents.. i wouldnt want to grow out 40 of them and find they suck...

*and i know there will be good pheonos around and i would obviously isolate one large yeailding big bud and one large AK48 plant to do the test with...

:)
 

Day to Daze

Active Member
i think scam was possibly the wrong word what i should have said is something like . marketing AID.. so its as good as they say huh... but ive HEARD it doesnt rate too well in potency... is that true?
 
compared to the ak48 u r growing the big bud will be no where near as potent but nevertheless is still an ok smoke. u r obviously a commercial grower and from the uk it will easily sell so trust me the big bud is worth growing, i used to get 60-70 oz dry off 3x600s with no co2 vegged for 5 weeks.
 

Brick Top

New Member
Would I be assuming too much that you picked Nirvana’s Big Bud? I based that on you having said you also purchased AK48. Nirvana was not the only breeder to create an AK48, but its AK48 is far more known than most others, so that is why I guessed Nirvana and then likely Nirvana for both genetics.

Like any strain where there are more than one existing and they are genetically different it is difficult to predict what will come because of variable involved, but the basic genetics of anyone’s Big Bud is not a scam. Each one was bred to produce and produce they do. Some better than others, as some are higher in potency than others, but what is needed to get major production in there.

The name may be seen as marketing but then many strain names include some sort of marketing that include some sort of descriptive word or words or term about the strain. The ‘White’ varieties were all of course called ‘White’ because they were so white. Skunk varieties, need I say more? How about flavors and odors of strains being included in strain names as descriptive marketing. Orange Bud and other ‘Orange’ strains. The various ‘Lemon’ strains, including of course the one just called Lemon, etc.

Some marketing enters into other types of names where effects are more described or used like, AK47 and B52 for their hard-hitting effects or Slyder for the effect it has where you tend to slide your feet more than pick them up when you attempt to walk after smoking it. Each name created for its combination of impact, description and drawing appeal.

There are those with some slight bit of an ego who like to name as many strains as they can after themselves and add some descriptive term and then maybe a number added for one or more variations to follow, but I guess that works too if you are selective enough of when to use your actual name on a strain.

One breeder’s Big Bud I have wondered about is the Hemcy strain. Like all Big Bud strains is claims massive yields but unlike most that claim modest or average potency levels the Hemcy Big Bud claims it is over 20% in THC. Their advertising copy says; “This 'bad boy special' from the Netherlands has enormous buds with an astonishing amount of THC. It grows to medium height and has a remarkable sweet taste. Big Bud is an absolute best-selling homogenous strain with a very high yield. Early flowering, best flower to leaf ratio. A must for the commercial grower.” They claim; “an astonishing amount of THC,” “over 20%” and Hemcy has held a very high rating for years on Greenman’s seedbank rating site and I have used them for other strains and they seem honest and above board, but I have to wonder about that; “over 20%” claim.

If it produces as claimed and is as potent as claimed it has to be the very best kept secret there is among growers because if not everyone would have grown it by now or would be growing it or soon would be growing it. It would be difficult to pass up yields like that with; “over 20% THC.”
 

KaleoXxX

Well-Known Member
your the man brick top +rep
(i guess i already rep ed you for having such great posts)

always informative posts, and great spelling and grammar
 

Day to Daze

Active Member
Again Bricktop another great post... in only a few months your one of the growers i most look up to .. thanks for the information i probably should have done it before on previous posts ive read but my first pluss rep for you cheers.

first things first ... nirvana yes for big bud.. i didnt really want nirvana i heard there were better big bud genetics out there but i gave up looking (any sudgestions) i think i got the AK48 from sensible seeds..(i heard nirvanas AK48 is just a rename of their AK47) i heard good things correct me if im wrong but it could well have been you that praised sensible seeds... anyway..

yeah i wouldnt say im a commercial grower.. as such .. for now yes... i need to cover my grow room and light etc... and pay off a few debts then im planning on breeding a nice strain for myself... but untill then i need a couple of grows to yeild about 72 ounce each ... but with 4 600 watts 9 per light.. i think i can cover that with enough veg time.. 2zips a plant and ill be laughing.(although ive heard big bud can double that, but under my lights probably not) i just hope big bud lives up tp the name...

the main thing is in my area.. i think the main bud going around at the moment is cheese but im pretty sure no-one will notice... the buyers round here are all young and put as little as possible in a joint to make it last.. so im pretty sure most of them dont feel the true effects anyway i know i didnt when i was their age...

all i can do now is pray that it live up to the name and that it deals a nice blow.. ill post a report soon as i collect a nice collection of porn for you guys.
 

homebrewer

Well-Known Member
I have experience with Nirvana's BigBud and it's no joke. It'll yield VERY well but I'd give the quality of the smoke a 6/10 or 7/10.
 

leroy69

Active Member
compared to the ak48 u r growing the big bud will be no where near as potent but nevertheless is still an ok smoke. u r obviously a commercial grower and from the uk it will easily sell so trust me the big bud is worth growing, i used to get 60-70 oz dry off 3x600s with no co2 vegged for 5 weeks.
how many plants?
 
why does this strain get so much hate? It's Afghani and Skunk heritage, with the one's from one seed bank Northern Lights #1 & Skunk #1 crossed..All great strains
 
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