Uhm...I don't even know where to begin :(

SnotNazi

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First look at my sick plants....The worse of the two had a light fall on it...wow this is almost embarrassing...:oops:
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Okay let me start off by saying I know I done fucked up, that'll happen when you have improper tools and water with acidic water into a medium you just found out has a tendency to swing towards acidic levels. Enough said, the problem at hand is do I give them a good flush and chop or should I flush for the next two weeks and finish the cycle? These girls are no where near done but I want to salvage what shitty smoke I can while I can lol.:wall: Any help guys would be greatly appreciated.
 

Final Phase

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Don't chop em yet! Cannabis is a very hearty plant and will reverse back to normal given a chance. It kind of looks like a problem I'm dealing with due to a few pots I made not making big enough holes in the pots to let water through fast enough and I got fungus gnats... If you don't have gnats floating around the cups you're okay on that. I'm guessing it's something you are putting in the water or in the soil your using - If it's too rich in nutrients it will look like your plants also. When that happened to me three years ago with some seedlings they bounced back when put into better soil. Being your's are in cups you can change out easily. Then again, like you said it may be too acidic water that started it in the first place.
 

SnotNazi

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They're in 10 gallon buckets and 6 weeks into flower.....buckets are waaay too big but transplanted them into these to get rid of a previous problem.
 

Final Phase

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They're in 10 gallon buckets and 6 weeks into flower.....buckets are waaay too big but transplanted them into these to get rid of a previous problem.
I hope someone here can help you out. I hate the shit out of watching plants slowly die. I had spider mites three years ago that took me 9 fucking months to get rid of - The damn mites ate up so much of the plants all I got was 12 oz. in a grow that should have been around 4.lb. I was so fucking pissed off - I nuked every plate of bud for 10 seconds so they wouldn't keep eating the buds while drying.
 

SnotNazi

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Wow that's fucking nuts. Ya it just sucks more though, watching em die, because I know what caused this and it was purely my fault at least with you it was more so out of your control lol..
 

Buzz Buzzilla

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They are so small I have to ask...how old are they total weeks? They are flowering and they are so tiny? You defiantly have potassium deficiency and or iron lock out! But we can figure that all out!
 

Buzz Buzzilla

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I hope someone here can help you out. I hate the shit out of watching plants slowly die. I had spider mites three years ago that took me 9 fucking months to get rid of - The damn mites ate up so much of the plants all I got was 12 oz. in a grow that should have been around 4.lb. I was so fucking pissed off - I nuked every plate of bud for 10 seconds so they wouldn't keep eating the buds while drying.
Habanero spray works instantly!!!
 

KillsPlants

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yellowing leaves normally indicates a nitrogen def but this looks like yellowing because of root damage. Over watering/transplanting is prolly the issue of drainage is good. Please do the lift method on ur pots not the look method they should be light as fuck if they have weight to em don't water.
 

Buzz Buzzilla

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Occassionally a nitrogen toxicity is mistaken for a deficiency. Could your plant actually be nitrogen toxic? What nutrients are you using and how often? Most nutrients are high in N is why I ask and you have some very dark green mixed in along with the yellow. Also leaves do turn yellow while flowering?

Still though I'm concerned by the size of the plant...and the lack of iron will lock out a lot of other nutrients.

Edit: I see what looks like "the claw" In a few pictures and also uneven yellowing in the leaves.
 

SnotNazi

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Alright well first off thank you for your concern and willingness to help so here we go.
Feeding Dutch Pro Bloom - 1.6mil per Litre
Dutch Pro EXPLODE - bloom enhancer - 0.85mil per Litre
was feeding additional 30mil per feed - 3L jug split between both plants - of worm casting solution
Was feeding twice per week with nutrients every time.
Total weeks growing - 11 - 5 weeks veg 6 weeks in flower
Weak lighting is to blame for minimal growth
Last time I saw the roots was during a transplant which was on the 29th of April roots were solid good health - pics below
Cold temps have stunted growth and so have nutrient burns
Now here's the bit of the story that tells all - PH got way out of hand when I accidentally watered with acidic water roughly 4-4.5 pH
Now my PH runoff is 4-4.5 at best

I'm just wondering if I should cut them out of the SCROG net bring them to the tub and just flush them until my PH is around 6.... Any thoughts? My tap water is PH'd around 7.5-8
 

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Buzz Buzzilla

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Alright well first off thank you for your concern and willingness to help so here we go.
Feeding Dutch Pro Bloom - 1.6mil per Litre
Dutch Pro EXPLODE - bloom enhancer - 0.85mil per Litre
was feeding additional 30mil per feed - 3L jug split between both plants - of worm casting solution
Was feeding twice per week with nutrients every time.
Total weeks growing - 11 - 5 weeks veg 6 weeks in flower
Weak lighting is to blame for minimal growth
Last time I saw the roots was during a transplant which was on the 29th of April roots were solid good health - pics below
Cold temps have stunted growth and so have nutrient burns
Now here's the bit of the story that tells all - PH got way out of hand when I accidentally watered with acidic water roughly 4-4.5 pH
Now my PH runoff is 4-4.5 at best

I'm just wondering if I should cut them out of the SCROG net bring them to the tub and just flush them until my PH is around 6.... Any thoughts? My tap water is PH'd around 7.5-8
Never use tap water right from the sink or tub to water! If you have been doing this then that explains a lot!...usually your water will have detergents and or chlorine or floruide? Most of the time you can let it gass out if in sunlight or left open for 24 hrs even hydrogen peroxide will remove them...I have a few give gal buckets that I use w fish aerators that I make. Guano tea with and don't even think about using them for 48-72 hrs until there is a froth on top assuring the good bacteria is alive eating and breathing.
 

SnotNazi

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Never use tap water right from the sink or tub to water! If you have been doing this then that explains a lot!...usually your water will have detergents and or chlorine or floruide? Most of the time you can let it gass out if in sunlight or left open for 24 hrs even hydrogen peroxide will remove them...I have a few give gal buckets that I use w fish aerators that I make. Guano tea with and don't even think about using them for 48-72 hrs until there is a froth on top assuring the good bacteria is alive eating and breathing.
I don't use water straight from the tap I always let it stand for minimum 24 hrs. Except today, I just had to run 12 liters through each one to get run off to 6-6.5 I'll post an update next week. I'm stressing them out a little bit more right now because I'm creating an ideal drying atmosphere. High heat high circulation. Desperate times call for desperate measures. Anyway, I'll post back in a few days with some pics and let you guys know how it went.
 

sno capz

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I don't use water straight from the tap I always let it stand for minimum 24 hrs. Except today, I just had to run 12 liters through each one to get run off to 6-6.5 I'll post an update next week. I'm stressing them out a little bit more right now because I'm creating an ideal drying atmosphere. High heat high circulation. Desperate times call for desperate measures. Anyway, I'll post back in a few days with some pics and let you guys know how it went.
This is only true for city tap water... Using well water from a tap after being ran through a reverse osmosis filter... That is more times than not an OK thing. All of my water is well tap
 

sno capz

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If the strain has an 8 week flowering time then the plants leaves could be turning yellow due to the plant using up all the sugar left in the leaves to produce energy needed for final maturing
 

SnotNazi

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Dark Angel by Crop King Seeds, decent strain, purely human error with these girls. Yes they are an 8 week strain but have been getting far more yellow than the last grow. This was day 39 last grow I'm on day 38 with this one.
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This being said it could be a contributing factor. However, like I said, there has been a lot of human error on this one. But, you have to learn the basics at some point and while doing so you're bound to crash and burn at times, right? I harvested the one above the same day the pic was taken as I just couldn't wait anymore lol. This time I'm letting them go even though their condition is poor at the moment. Hopefully another 2 weeks, give or take. This is what the final bud looked like from last grow.IMG_2911.JPG
 
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