jacks salts

[old shol4evr]

well riu, anyone out there using jacks salts,im going to start a run with roots organic coco coir, coco is already rinsed ph'ed and mixing 30% perlite.
got jacks hydrophonics 5-12-26//// jacks calcium nitrate // 15-0-0/// salts
my buddy that got me pumped to try out his method wound up somewere im not going, if anyone has run these salts can you tell me how much epsome salt goes with feeding .
im going to run side by side
coco with salts
soil with water and teas
im a organic soil grower and that shit head tells me you cant tell the diffrence in the overall smoke ,taste,smothness. well im going to see for myself and just need a little push to get results.

 

[green_machine_two9er]

Hydro for dough. Soil for dro. Idk anything about those products lol. However most hydro/chemicle growers have problems admitting anything could be of better quality than what their bottles of shit give. Your just wanting to test for yourself the difference?? I've considered it as well.

 

[old shol4evr]

yea i have heard all the stuff you are talking about,i consider myself open minded,yes i will find out if there is a diffrence ,last grow went for 6 months,it was sativa though. i know it can be grown quicker ,i got to do it poboy style ,i might try my hand on dwc after the salt run ,never know i might like the salts and stick with them a while. plus you got to admitt all the hydro and coco talk gets old after a while .so yeah i got open mind

 

[ttystikk]

@old shol4evr I've run exactly that brand and type of nutrient in coco. Works fine.

I'm currently running a very similar dry nutrient salt (basically the same formula, just a different manufacturer) in RDWC with excellent results.

These salts will teach you that allll those people buying water bottle nutes at the hydro store are WASTING THEIR MONEY.

There are a limited number of nutrients the plants need (six biggies and another twelve or fifteen micros) and they're all available in commercial dry nutrient salt mixes, at a cost per gallon of plant ready nutrient solution of a twentieth or less than the hyped up jugs with pics o' nugs.

My last purchase of dry nutes was $640 and got me enough nutes to turn an Olympic swimming pool into my own personal nutrient reservoir. It's lasted me for years and will last several more. By contrast, it ran me over $220 for just two or three runs' worth of House & Garden. The commercial nutes did better, too.

 

[old shol4evr]

@old shol4evr I've run exactly that brand and type of nutrient in coco. Works fine.

I'm currently running a very similar dry nutrient salt (basically the same formula, just a different manufacturer) in RDWC with excellent results.

These salts will teach you that allll those people buying water bottle nutes at the hydro store are WASTING THEIR MONEY.

There are a limited number of nutrients the plants need (six biggies and another twelve or fifteen micros) and they're all available in commercial dry nutrient salt mixes, at a cost per gallon of plant ready nutrient solution of a twentieth or less than the hyped up jugs with pics o' nugs.

My last purchase of dry nutes was $640 and got me enough nutes to turn an Olympic swimming pool into my own personal nutrient reservoir. It's lasted me for years and will last several more. By contrast, it ran me over $220 for just two or three runs' worth of House & Garden. The commercial nutes did better, too.

did you run at recomended dose and did you measure threw weight,how does the epsome salt come into play here,buddy i been talking about claims he used both salts and epsome all the way and told me i would never look back after useing and mastering how to use them,recomended dose is on back of tub but is there a feed schedule any were you no of tty. like ive been saying this is a new adventure for me

 

[ttystikk]

did you run at recomended dose and did you measure threw weight,how does the epsome salt come into play here,buddy i been talking about claims he used both salts and epsome all the way and told me i would never look back after useing and mastering how to use them,recomended dose is on back of tub but is there a feed schedule any were you no of tty. like ive been saying this is a new adventure for me

Veg feed;
Three grams per gal calcium nitrate. Mix that separately from the rest. Two grams per gallon of Jacks mix. Add 1-1.5g/gal of Epsom salt. PH between 5.5-6.0. EC 1.1-1.4

Bloom feed;
2g/gal calcium nitrate
2g/gal Jacks mix
1-1.5g/gal epsom salt
PH between 5.8-6.5.
EC 1.2-1.5

 

[old shol4evr]

Veg feed;
Three grams per gal calcium nitrate. Mix that separately from the rest. Two grams per gallon of Jacks mix. Add 1-1.5g/gal of Epsom salt. PH between 5.5-6.0. EC 1.1-1.4

Bloom feed;
2g/gal calcium nitrate
2g/gal Jacks mix
1-1.5g/gal epsom salt
PH between 5.8-6.5.
EC 1.2-1.5

thanks my friend

 

[old shol4evr]

Veg feed;
Three grams per gal calcium nitrate. Mix that separately from the rest. Two grams per gallon of Jacks mix. Add 1-1.5g/gal of Epsom salt. PH between 5.5-6.0. EC 1.1-1.4

Bloom feed;
2g/gal calcium nitrate
2g/gal Jacks mix
1-1.5g/gal epsom salt
PH between 5.8-6.5.
EC 1.2-1.5

be best to just maintain 6.0 all the way threw right

 

[ttystikk]

be best to just maintain 6.0 all the way threw right

I like fives in veg and slowly climbing into the sixes through bloom, to reach 6.5 right near the end.

 

[old shol4evr]

I like fives in veg and slowly climbing into the sixes through bloom, to reach 6.5 right near the end.

so you are munipulating to get to the end 6.5,how do you read the girl to get to that point, do you use any boosters in the end game or just the salts,by the way you say not to mix them, are you saying not to mix the nitrate and fertilizer together ,do you combine them after they have delutided and then feed or are you mixing epson and fertilizer feeding and then feeding calcium nitrate into medium by itself,just curiouse /and yes i cant spell for shit anymore ive had a hard life what can i say thanks for your replies brother

 

[ttystikk]

Calcium nitrate is mixed and added to your res by itself. The others can all be safely mixed together.

You'll need to get pH up and down to control your levels, use them to get your pH in the correct range. Check and adjust daily.

I use no boosters per se, I do add MKP to my bloom mix in small amounts, like half a gram per gallon or less.

 

[old shol4evr]

so if im growing in coco coir and perlite ,i would feed the epsom and fertilizer and then come back and feed the nitrate

 

[Dr.Pecker]

I ran jacks with promix. I used calmag and ph down. Well water nearly 8 ph. It wasn't the best. shults 10 50 10 for flower was better than jacks. I also did fox farms bestie chaching open sesame thing. salt buildup was the biggest problem. any veg nutrient that's even in npk should be good for growing.

 

[ttystikk]

so if im growing in coco coir and perlite ,i would feed the epsom and fertilizer and then come back and feed the nitrate

Not quite. Just mix the two in their own buckets to dissolve the salts into solution, then mix into your nutrient reservoir. Once the nutrients are sufficiently diluted, the risk of unwanted chemical reactions subsides.

The main one to avoid is sulfur and calcium mixing at high concentration. This could cause them to bind together, or 'flocculate' and drop out of solution.

 

[old shol4evr]

so mix until disolved
fertilizer and epsom ,once completly disolved add the already disolved calcium nitrate and feed them right,thanks by the way

 

[old shol4evr]

Not quite. Just mix the two in their own buckets to dissolve the salts into solution, then mix into your nutrient reservoir. Once the nutrients are sufficiently diluted, the risk of unwanted chemical reactions subsides.

The main one to avoid is sulfur and calcium mixing at high concentration. This could cause them to bind together, or 'flocculate' and drop out of solution.

question for you brother,how do you determine what to put in if you are like p def or n def or k,what im asking is if i have a def how and what do i put in or take out to adjust for that problem

 

[old shol4evr]

ttystik also what would that feed ratio be for seedlings in coco and perlite, in coco you start feeding from the start right

 

[ttystikk]

question for you brother,how do you determine what to put in if you are like p def or n def or k,what im asking is if i have a def how and what do i put in or take out to adjust for that problem

I generally dump and put in a fresh batch on a regular schedule to avoid this issue.

ttystik also what would that feed ratio be for seedlings in coco and perlite, in coco you start feeding from the start right

I'm not using those media, do I wouldn't have good answers for you. Others do well, however.

 

[old shol4evr]

I generally dump and put in a fresh batch on a regular schedule to avoid this issue.



I'm not using those media, do I wouldn't have good answers for you. Others do well, however.

yes thats a problem though no one will talk about the salts but you and jr peters web site has no imformation about them,i appreciate your help though

 

[ttystikk]

yes thats a problem though no one will talk about the salts but you and jr peters web site has no imformation about them,i appreciate your help though

There's a lot of people here who use dry nutrient salts.