Medical Marijuana Users Suing Health Canada For Privacy Breach

WHATFG

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from 420 magazine

Lawyers representing medical marijuana users are in Federal Court in Halifax this morning asking a judge to certify a proposed class action against Health Canada for violating privacy rights.

In November 2013, that department sent letters to about 40,000 people explaining changes to the federal medical marijuana access program. On the return address, the envelopes stated they came from the Health Canada medical marijuana program, indicating to anyone who might see them that the recipient of the letter was either licensed to possess or grow marijuana for medical purposes.

The lead plaintiffs, a Nova Scotia man and an Ontario woman, are identified in the case under the pseudonyms John Doe and Suzie Jones. A confidentiality order protects their real identities.

The claim alleges that Health Canada was reckless, careless and negligent in sending out the mailing, because it compromised the privacy of the medical marijuana program users. The allegations have not been proven in court.

Health Canada has not yet fed a defence.

The Office of the Privacy Commissioner of Canada received more than 300 complaints from those affected, who cited concerns including job loss and damage to their reputations and safety, as a result of the mailing. The commissioner’s office investigated and, in March, released a finding that Health Canada violated the Privacy Act and mishandled personal information.

McInnes Cooper in Halifax and three other law firms, one in British Columbia, and two in Ontario are jointly representing affected users.

 

GrowRock

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Good hopefully Steve and the cons haven't spent all the money on fake commercials $765 000 000 worth and who knows how much on bs propaganda. That there is a nice million to every patient they threatened with jail time or the rcmp kicking there door in!!! Not to mention releasing private confidential info to every Tom dick and Harry around!!!
 

spider9

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the number I heard and I do not remember where was $40,000,000.00 so that would work out to $1,000.00 per patient based on 40,000 patients.
 

symptum

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personally I thinks it's bad to sue the government as the only real losers if patients win is the taxpayer. That 40000000 is going to come out of taxes. I feel they should be asking for a different type of resolution ie, fully instate growing rights to anyone with medical recommendation and abolish the need to register with a governing body therefore preventing the leak of personal information by the government again.
 

Gmack420

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personally I thinks it's bad to sue the government as the only real losers if patients win is the taxpayer. That 40000000 is going to come out of taxes. I feel they should be asking for a different type of resolution ie, fully instate growing rights to anyone with medical recommendation and abolish the need to register with a governing body therefore preventing the leak of personal information by the government again.
What you think should be done is being done by filing a goldstar star statement of claim. $2 to file and it can be done by everyone.
 

symptum

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Yeah I'm aware of that but there's still the people looking for money which is what I have an issue with. The only losers are people like you and I. the only real winners are the lawyers since they're getting paid to sue and the government lawyers getting paid to defend. If the government looses they'll just slash funding on some programs or raise taxes to recoup the loss.
 

medcann

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personally I thinks it's bad to sue the government as the only real losers if patients win is the taxpayer. That 40000000 is going to come out of taxes. I feel they should be asking for a different type of resolution ie, fully instate growing rights to anyone with medical recommendation and abolish the need to register with a governing body therefore preventing the leak of personal information by the government again.
I'm assuming you didn't receive the letter?
 

Gmack420

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Yeah I'm aware of that but there's still the people looking for money which is what I have an issue with. The only losers are people like you and I. the only real winners are the lawyers since they're getting paid to sue and the government lawyers getting paid to defend. If the government looses they'll just slash funding on some programs or raise taxes to recoup the loss.
No one expects to get a cent from goldstars IMO. It's just to put a dollar value on the claim. They will give us what we want before paying out claims.
 

symptum

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No one expects to get a cent from goldstars IMO. It's just to put a dollar value on the claim. They will give us what we want before paying out claims.
I'm not talking about Goldstar....I'm talking about the privacy breach lawsuit on behalf of every MMAR patient. And no I did not receive the letter. It took me many years to find a doc that would sign and I missed the MMAR cut off by a couple weeks. So, no don't have a basis to go into that suit but I was getting fucked by the MMPR until I took my health into my own hands.
 

doingdishes

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Yeah I'm aware of that but there's still the people looking for money which is what I have an issue with. The only losers are people like you and I. the only real winners are the lawyers since they're getting paid to sue and the government lawyers getting paid to defend. If the government looses they'll just slash funding on some programs or raise taxes to recoup the loss.
so we should do nothing??
the reason for asking for the $$ is only IF they deny being allowed to produce for yourself. if they paid out the 300 claimants, the Government would have a HUGE bill. mine is for around 5 million or something crazy like that. all i want is not to have to renew, grow what i need when I need it...stuff like that. nothing to do with $$...it's an attention getter in my opinion.
if anyone expects to get rich from the Goldstars, I agree with you-they are doing it for the wrong reasons and didn't read what was written.
if they didn't fight us at every turn & LISTENED to patients and the people, there wouldn't be so many lawsuits. look at this Allard one-it's so ridiculous that we have to fight for what should be common sense.
they denied our appeals because they said that we didn't have standing to appeal as we aren't one of the Plaintiffs yet Phelan stated that Allard represents a larger group of people....so we have to show them that & then we can file the appeals.
if our Government showed some common sense & wasn't so hard-nosed, there would be less actions against them and less money would be spent on their lawyers. they are on salary anyway so they would get that money regardless...they don't bill for hours
 

symptum

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TBH I didn't even read your whole post because it's obvious you didn't read mine. For the last time I'm not talking about Goldstar. I'm talking about the privacy breach lawsuit which I think is the mistake because unlike Goldstar, there's actually a chance that the patients could "win". Sueing the government is really just suing yourself. Alternative resolution is the better course as it won't cost the taxpayers millions and I'm sure everyone would be happier with growing rights as opposed to a one time payment of few hundred dollars by the time the lawyers have their fees. I don't know about you but I wouldn't consider that doing nothing. Get HC out of the MMJ regulation racket and let patients with medical approval grow for themselves if they are able to.
 

Gmack420

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TBH I didn't even read your whole post because it's obvious you didn't read mine. For the last time I'm not talking about Goldstar. I'm talking about the privacy breach lawsuit which I think is the mistake because unlike Goldstar, there's actually a chance that the patients could "win". Sueing the government is really just suing yourself. Alternative resolution is the better course as it won't cost the taxpayers millions and I'm sure everyone would be happier with growing rights as opposed to a one time payment of few hundred dollars by the time the lawyers have their fees. I don't know about you but I wouldn't consider that doing nothing. Get HC out of the MMJ regulation racket and let patients with medical approval grow for themselves if they are able to.
Your confusing things. No ones asking for the remedy you're suggesting in relation to the privacy breach. No one will get the right to grow from that lawsuit. We read what you said and its exactly what we're asking for with goldstars. Don't get all pissy at us because we're suing the government and going to win. We shouldn't have to but now it's our only option.
 

GrowRock

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TBH I didn't even read your whole post because it's obvious you didn't read mine. For the last time I'm not talking about Goldstar. I'm talking about the privacy breach lawsuit which I think is the mistake because unlike Goldstar, there's actually a chance that the patients could "win". Sueing the government is really just suing yourself. Alternative resolution is the better course as it won't cost the taxpayers millions and I'm sure everyone would be happier with growing rights as opposed to a one time payment of few hundred dollars by the time the lawyers have their fees. I don't know about you but I wouldn't consider that doing nothing. Get HC out of the MMJ regulation racket and let patients with medical approval grow for themselves if they are able to.
If we are talking about wasting tax payers money look at what gb123 posted about how $780 000 0000 of tax payers money was spent on commercials lying to Canadians about how to get grants and jobs that don't exist. If they did pay the patient for the wrong done to them it will be such a minimal amount. Even if like I said in my previous post if it were a million a patient that would be $40 000 0000. That's small potatoes compared to the amount of money the gov has spent on false advertising fighting mmj patients etc of course my opinion. I for one think they should be held responsible for releasing 40000 Canadians private medical info. It sucks that my tax dollars go to health Canada so they can make it harder for mmj patients to obtain medicine that is life changing...
 

symptum

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i'M not getting pissy at anyone but when I keep saying it's about the privacy breach and not goldstar quit referring back to goldstar. I have nothing to say about Goldstar because it's only purpose is to get a number for how many people this truly affects. My opinion on the matter is just that, my opinion. And my opinion happens to be that sueing is usually a poor choice because most peopke don't stop and think who it really hurts. Just like when people sue over car accidents etc. the company never really pays because at the end of the day they just recoup their losses one way or another. I say stick it to them by finding a way to have MMJ removed from the control of HC and put back into the hands of the patients. Not by getting a few hundred bucks that in the long run will just cost more money paying the government legal fees and the 40 000 000 we have to pay back by losing government funding in some way or by having taxes raised.
 

redi jedi

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And thats why sueing is the wrong approach...it doesn't effect the people responsible...they wont be afraid to do it again.

Its probably just too time consuming to investigate who is accountable...
 

medcann

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The government spent $23 million to find the Senate might have wrongfully claimed $1 million in expenses...that sir is a waste of all our money.
The government being made to pay myself and others that have incurred costs due to their deliberate privacy breach is not a waste of money.
If you had to fork out more money to beef up your security perhaps you might feel differently.
 
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