Doing it ...super soil for autos

justugh

justugh

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hi

i got tired of trying to keep on top of the feeding just to mess up ........so i am planning a new tactic

i am going to modify good soil to make it better/super soil

Sunshine mix #4 1 cube with about 1/3 used up
Roots organic promix 2 bags
ProMix (the one with the fungi and mycro) 4 foot cubic

about 8 feet for soil

20 lbs of worms casting
2.5 lbs of indo bat guano (try this one)
3.5 lbs of blood meal
2.5 lbs fish bone meal

then the other basics
rock phosphate .......thinking 2.5 lbs of this
azomite..........3/4 cup
dolomite lime .......... cup of this
humic acid ............1/4 cup
epson salt .............1 cup
roots organic elements ( cup of this )


thoughts changes in the amounts ........i am using the soil on hand .....i have been mixing my trim and blow leaves in there so they have something to break down
 
justugh

justugh

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well i did it
used 6 cubic feet total .........only thing that might of been off is the rock phosphate might of used 3 lbs 3.5

it is all mixed up in the cans outside getting some heat and sun ..........i do not think i will need to cook it long as the soil already had colonies of micros going in them (the stuff was hot as i was scooping it up ).......give it a few days then i will start my next batch of plants and post the results for anyone that cares
 
justugh

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lmoore2680 said:
I'm here watching u caught my attention

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will do ........just to let u know it is a bitch to mix it by hand......and i used indo bat guano (mexico and jamaica whole different NPK ratings) so that might be a factor ......from what i got it is going to be short on K

worm casting 1-1-1
indo bat guano 0.5-12-0.2
rock phosphate 0-3-0
blood meal 12-0-0
fish meal 3-18-0

the rest of it does not really have anything to add into it
oh the elements i used is 20% calcium i know the strains i plan to run they are hogs for it
 
tekdc911

tekdc911

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justugh said:
no tweaks or add ons .....i got it right sweet
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justugh said:
will do ........just to let u know it is a bitch to mix it by hand......and i used indo bat guano (mexico and jamaica whole different NPK ratings) so that might be a factor ......from what i got it is going to be short on K

worm casting 1-1-1
indo bat guano 0.5-12-0.2
rock phosphate 0-3-0
blood meal 12-0-0
fish meal 3-18-0

the rest of it does not really have anything to add into it
oh the elements i used is 20% calcium i know the strains i plan to run they are hogs for it
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Did you use azomite for the trace minerals ? i too busted out a secret weapon for this grow bongsmilie

mixed 1/2 and 1/2 jiffy seed starter and miracle gro hydrate with a bit of lime

now before i hear this and that about miracle gro :D there is no time release in this stuff its just compost / peat / coco
 
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labratlee

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hey there

I love the idea of this and I'm looking into the idea for my next grow... Almost at the end of my first ever! Yay lol. 3xred poison auto and 1x fruit auto. Next I wanna grow some think different... The super soil thing... Would it be to hot as I start my autos off in there final pot. Iv heard people just fill the bottom third of the pot with the super soil. What's your plans?

cheers
 
justugh

justugh

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tekdc911 said:
Did you use azomite for the trace minerals ? i too busted out a secret weapon for this grow bongsmilie

mixed 1/2 and 1/2 jiffy seed starter and miracle gro hydrate with a bit of lime

now before i hear this and that about miracle gro :D there is no time release in this stuff its just compost / peat / coco
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yah i use 2 heaping tablespoons of that stuff along with 1 cup of the elements 1 cup of the salt 1 cup of lime plus a sprinkled the acid .............after that i gave it 18 hours and i could see steam on the lid inside i added 1 gallon of water with micro (AH root mass builder plus Hydro guard and vegan plant booster) in it and shut the lid it been 24 hours now but it is T storming now so i am not going to look in today


those time release beads they have are horrible man u know this........just the flushing alone u need to triple it to pop those beads so they do not allow the plant to intake right before the cut .....and the fact it is a auto plant (the roots are a fast grower ) your going to get burn
 
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justugh

justugh

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labratlee said:
hey there

I love the idea of this and I'm looking into the idea for my next grow... Almost at the end of my first ever! Yay lol. 3xred poison auto and 1x fruit auto. Next I wanna grow some think different... The super soil thing... Would it be to hot as I start my autos off in there final pot. Iv heard people just fill the bottom third of the pot with the super soil. What's your plans?

cheers
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me i am going the whole pot .......i used super soil before (ideal420soil) but they always sell out so fast i made up mine own this time .....i was mixing there bag with a bag of good soil like roots promix or ffof)

sunshine #4 has no value in NPK it is just micros perlite (it is a feed soil with mycro already in it ) ......i mixed it with Roots promix with that then added on top of that with the other things .......the power of the soil is not full super soil .........that is how i modified it for Auto plant
 
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tekdc911

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justugh said:
yah i use 2 heaping tablespoons of that stuff along with 1 cup of the elements 1 cup of the salt 1 cup of lime plus a sprinkled the acid .............after that i gave it 18 hours and i could see steam on the lid inside i added 1 gallon of water with micro (AH root mass builder plus Hydro guard and vegan plant booster) in it and shut the lid it been 24 hours now but it is T storming now so i am not going to look in today


those time release beads they have are horrible man u know this........just the flushing alone u need to triple it to pop those beads so they do not allow the plant to intake right before the cut .....and the fact it is a auto plant (the roots are a fast grower ) your going to get burn
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this stuff has no time release in it , its a soil amendment its just compost coco and peat
 
justugh

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tekdc911 said:
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refined enhanced moss .........i look into adding it if i see retention troubles .......6 gallon bags what i am planing so that is 1 gallon if holds less i will tho that into other trash can

i figured with it being sunshine #4 that is basically all it is except perlite and colones of mycro .........same thing with the promix they have that and the fungi
 
tekdc911

tekdc911

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justugh said:
refined enhanced moss .........i look into adding it if i see retention troubles .......6 gallon bags what i am planing so that is 1 gallon if holds less i will tho that into other trash can

i figured with it being sunshine #4 that is basically all it is except perlite and colones of mycro .........same thing with the promix they have that and the fungi
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its really chunky stuff thats why i added the jiffy starter for the fine stuff to fill in the gaps ...... the plants seem happy only a couple weeks old no burns or def's i used it when i potted up my haze and i have only fed it once when i transplanted it seems happy IMG1754.jpgIMG1763.jpg IMG1765 (1).jpg
 
tekdc911

tekdc911

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justugh said:
how did u make it branch like that ......all mine are x-mas trees or X shaped
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its a photo mainlined thats one of my haze crosses ..... calling it honeymoon haze since its what im using to fund my honeymoon ;) technically its a F3 but since the F2 was a fem cross and F3 was really a back cross i just call it a F2 so i dont confuse myself and everyone else
its getting another 10-12 weeks of veg and clone snipping and then its getting flipped
 
tekdc911

tekdc911

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mainline is node to node , so you top it only leaving one node of 2 branches then continue to do the same to every branch until you hit the desired amount of branches all tops have a even amount of nodes and the same distance from the stalk, instead of like normal topping some of the branches are closer to the roots then the others and it doesnt grow even
 
justugh

justugh

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tekdc911 said:
its a photo mainlined thats one of my haze crosses ..... calling it honeymoon haze since its what im using to fund my honeymoon ;) technically its a F3 but since the F2 was a fem cross and F3 was really a back cross i just call it a F2 so i dont confuse myself and everyone else
its getting another 10-12 weeks of veg and clone snipping and then its getting flipped
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i toss it into a 20 gallon and make yourself a shrub fill a 8x8 room
 
tekdc911

tekdc911

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justugh said:
i toss it into a 20 gallon and make yourself a shrub fill a 8x8 room
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have a 10 gallon tub and i aint scared to use it o_O thats the plan anyway and let it hog the light gonna bust out the 600 w for it,
soon as i see roots peeking out the bottom its getting transplanted
 
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