Confederate flag

shishkaboy

shishkaboy

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If defending that flag is all about the "freedom of speech", why is it such an issue when I exercise my right?

If my opinion is that all Americans should be ashamed of it, so what.
I was just trying to draw attention to what the folks that wave that flag are saying when they do it.

In America we protest when things are unfair, because it's a proven fact that this place was built on criminal acts. We made mistakes but the laws can be changed

If you really feel that strongly about overweight people in tight clothing you should contact your local representative.
Get a rally going or something.
 
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spandy

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Johnny Vapor said:
It's pretty simple really....who cares what the confederate flag originally stood for. Today, it is a symbol of white supremacy. The fact is, the last thing thousands of black people saw before they were beaten to death or hung is the confederate flag. The last word thousands of black people heard before they were beaten to death or hung was "N#%**r". That's why it has to go.
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No one living today was beaten to death while looking at the CF.


Be accountable for yourself, instead of trying to blame some dead racists from 150 years ago.
 
King Arthur

King Arthur

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Too busy dealing with sensationalism to realize they just passed that TPP and we are about to be bent over and fucked harder than we have ever been.
 
kmog33

kmog33

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shishkaboy said:
If defending that flag is all about the "freedom of speech", why is it such an issue when I exercise my right?

If my opinion is that all Americans should be ashamed of it, so what.
I was just trying to draw attention to what the folks that wave that flag are saying when they do it.

In America we protest when things are unfair, because it's a proven fact that this place was built on criminal acts. We made mistakes but the laws can be changed

If you really feel that strongly about overweight people in tight clothing you should contact your local representative.
Get a rally going or something.
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giving it as your opinion isn't an issue, but stating something needs to be taken down because of your opinion is. And stating that everyone else should feel the same way as you is exactly the problem you have with the confederate flag. It like the death penalty, show people it not ok to kill people by killing people lol.
 
kmog33

kmog33

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I think your missing my point here so I'll be more clear.

I think, a lot of the people that display the con flag, are racist and bigoted.

I don't think, that I have the right to tell the people that display it, that they can't. I think a better plan is to get rid of the kkk than the con flag, but that's not happening, right? Because they are protected by the constitution, even though I think they should be disbanded.

At the point that more than half of people vote to get rid of that shit, it'll be gone. That's democracy. Whether or not votes are rigged and such is a totally different issue.
 
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beans davis

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DirtyMcCurdy said:
You forgot about social and economic inequalities and states rights. Two issues we still deal with today. I do not support the confederate flag. However, the idea of a confederacy against the government is idea I can be open minded about. They didn't want the government to have so much control... ahh, and look us now.
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The Morrill Tariff
The Morrill Tariff was the worst tax in U.S. history passed by Lincoln the 1st republican president. It raised southern taxes from 20% to 47%. The people were loosing their houses & land.Southern states made up 30% of the pop. and were paying over 80% of the taxes.

Only 6% of southerners owned slaves and 75% of those 6% lived in the north and had overseers.The slave auctions and slave ships were owned by northerners or British.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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spandy said:
No one living today was beaten to death while looking at the CF.


Be accountable for yourself, instead of trying to blame some dead racists from 150 years ago.
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goddamn you are fucking stupid. lynchings have continued from 150 years ago, they still happen today. or they just drag them behind a truck while yelling racial epithets.

"no one living today was beaten to death..."

jesus christ, how fucking dumb can you get?

i know you like to say that multiculutralism works best when an ocean separates the cultures, you are very fond of that white separatist crap and all, so why don't you take the culture of stupidity you have cultivated and swim to fucking china?
 
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ChesusRice

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beans davis said:
The Morrill Tariff
The Morrill Tariff was the worst tax in U.S. history passed by Lincoln the 1st republican president. It raised southern taxes from 20% to 47%. The people were loosing their houses & land.Southern states made up 30% of the pop. and were paying over 80% of the taxes.

Only 6% of southerners owned slaves and 75% of those 6% lived in the north and had overseers.The slave auctions and slave ships were owned by northerners or British.
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You make up everything you post?
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The Morrill Tariff of 1861 was an increased tariff in the United States, adopted on March 2, 1861, during the administration of President James Buchanan, a Democrat. It was a key element of the platform of the new Republican Party, and it appealed to industrialists and factory workers as a way to foster rapid industrial growth by limiting competition from lower-wage industries in Europe.
It was named for its sponsor, Representative Justin Smith Morrill of Vermont, who drafted it with the advice of Pennsylvania economist Henry Charles Carey. The passage of the tariff was possible because many tariff-averse Southerners had resigned from Congress after their states declared their secession. The Morrill Tariff raised rates to encourage industry and to foster high wages for industrial workers.[1] It replaced the low Tariff of 1857, which was written to benefit the South. Two additional tariffs sponsored by Morrill, each one higher, were passed during Abraham Lincoln's administration to raise urgently needed revenue during the Civil War.

Justin Smith Morrill
The Morrill tariff inaugurated a period of continuous trade protection in the United States, a policy that remained until the adoption of the Revenue Act of 1913 (the Underwood tariff). The schedule of the Morrill Tariff and its two successor bills were retained long after the end of the Civil War
 
Wavels

Wavels

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Although I am ambivalent regarding any public display of this odious (IMO) flag.

This guy makes some cogent points...
 
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ChesusRice

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Wavels said:
Although I am ambivalent regarding any public display of this odious (IMO) flag.

This guy makes some cogent points...
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Although he was from Ohio, during the American Civil War, Thompson supported the Confederacy and its cause, as a resident of Georgia.[1] In 1863, as the editor of the Savannah Morning News he proposed a design that would ultimately become the Confederacy's second national flag, which would be come to known as the "Stainless Banner."[2][3][7][8]
In a series of editorials, Thompson argued:
As a people, we are fighting to maintain the Heaven-ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race; a white flag would thus be emblematical of our cause.[4]… Such a flag…would soon take rank among the proudest ensigns of the nations, and be hailed by the civilized world as THE WHITE MAN'S FLAG.[5]… As a national emblem, it is significant of our higher cause, the cause of a superior race, and a higher civilization contending against ignorance, infidelity, and barbarism. Another merit in the new flag is, that it bears no resemblance to the now infamous banner of the Yankee vandals.[6]
After the American Civil War ended and slavery was abolished in the U.S., Thompson, as a fervent supporter of the Democrats, opposed the Republican Party's efforts in southern U.S. states, as well as opposing the granting of civil rights to African Americans and freed slaves.[1][7]
 
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