PH perfect users..do you ever adjust PH?
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WeedFreak78
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Leave it alone. 2 reasons. It has a PH balancing mechanism built in, it's hard to explain, I saw a video about the technology they use. Think of a ball of PH UP, coated in a layer of something that dissolves in a low PH solution, so if the PH goes down, that outer layer dissolves, releasing the PH up, thus raising the PH. Same thing with PH DOWN. But it's all happening at a molecular level. When you add more PH UP or DOWN, you end up neutralizing many of those built in buffers, which usually causes massive PH shifts to start happening. From reading many forums, a lot of people having issues after adding PH UP or DOWN to these nutes.
Oh,yeah the other reason is the nutes are chealated so well - pretty much broken so it's easier to consume- that the plants can easily uptake them between, something like 5.5 to 8.0. Mine drift between 5.8 and 6.2, which is fine, you want a little drift.
What's your water like? When i was on tap it drifted worse up to like 6.5, but i never saw any issues. I had decent tap water.
I'm looking into other ferts now, I got what I have now as a gift, and not looking forward to having to pay for it when i need them. I was going to use GH 3 part, it worked well for me in the past, but F Scotts! ( Fitzgerald..HA! i had to..don't get it?, nevermind...I'm high). There are a few other companies who have the same technology but don't advertise it like AN and are much cheaper. I honestly don't think the cost of AN is that big of a factor, considering what you get out of it, but if i can get the same thing with half, or less, of the cost..
Oh,yeah the other reason is the nutes are chealated so well - pretty much broken so it's easier to consume- that the plants can easily uptake them between, something like 5.5 to 8.0. Mine drift between 5.8 and 6.2, which is fine, you want a little drift.
What's your water like? When i was on tap it drifted worse up to like 6.5, but i never saw any issues. I had decent tap water.
I'm looking into other ferts now, I got what I have now as a gift, and not looking forward to having to pay for it when i need them. I was going to use GH 3 part, it worked well for me in the past, but F Scotts! ( Fitzgerald..HA! i had to..don't get it?, nevermind...I'm high). There are a few other companies who have the same technology but don't advertise it like AN and are much cheaper. I honestly don't think the cost of AN is that big of a factor, considering what you get out of it, but if i can get the same thing with half, or less, of the cost..
chronnie49
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I use AN ph perfect micro grow bloom, i do check the ph before feeding but it always goes from 8.5 to 6.2-6.5 which works great in promix.
Alexander Supertramp
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Listen, little Elia: draw your chair up close to the edge of the precipice and I'll tell you a story. AN can blow sunshine up your ass. But in fact it's night time.
Enigmatic Ways
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DO NOT adjust pH. I use AN 3-part pH perfect and was having problems when I was adjusting the pH, then I did some reading and I found out you're not supposed to add pH up or down. Do you use any of their additives? If not I highly highly suggest them, there worth every penny. Here's my line up, the three big bottles are 1L the small ones are 250ml, total cost about $110 and that's enough to get me through this harvest and one more so that's only 55 dollars every harvest, and what you get in return is priceless lol. 
SourD420
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Ahh this makes alot of sense thank you! After i started adjusting the ph my runoff seemed to spike a tiny bit and now it makes sense. I use 0ppm RO water. I do enjoy using AN but i will most likely be switching to something else after i use the rest of what i have.
Yep i use most of their additives. Im just vegging some moms right now but i have the sensi grow, b52, voodoo juice, and sensi cal mag xtra. I even have their ph up and down but it looks like i wont be needing those for awhile!
chuck estevez
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SourD420
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Do you hate life chuck? Because all i see from you is bashing people that use advanced. It works and it works good for alot of people. Not saying its the best thing out but its a hell of alot better than using some shit made by scotts. My buddy is a caregiver that was using gh for years getting an average of 1 gram per watt. He switched to AN and his numbers jumped up to about 1.5 per watt
chuck estevez
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I just laugh that noobs buy all that crap, plus buy into a brand does better than another brand. If you know what you are doing, you can grow great with ANYTHING. nutrients are a SMALL part of great grows. maybe you'll learn that some day.
WeedFreak78
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Are you using the stuff specifically for coco? There is sensi grow A&B and sensi coco grow A&B..
Enigmatic Ways
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You need to stop the hate and do some research on additives, no not just additives from Advanced Nutrients but from any company. Here's a couple of good Links to get you started. Now the first one is a real long read but the wealth of information in it is priceless.
https://www.vutra.org/threads/itense-study-of-nutrients-and-additives-for-cannabis.9355
http://www.cannabis.info/gb/abc/10008974-additives-br-&hloc=1
budman111
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I think you do too, 99.9% of them are noob traps
chuck estevez
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chuck estevez
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LMFAO, this guy is an idiot
Flushing additives
Not every additive is designed to increase yield. Quality is as important as quantity. Any plant that has been raised on mineral feeds and additives should be flushed, regardless of the growing method or growing medium used. In hydroponic growing methods plants usually have constant access to mineral nutrients and, provided the solution in the reservoir is balanced, will constantly take all the elements they need via active uptake. These elements will be stored, in the root zone and plant sap, all the way until harvest.
End product from plants that have not been flushed can suffer from a ‘chemical’ taste, smokers often complain that hydroponically grown weed has a different taste from soil grown, whereas in reality it is more likely that it just hasn’t been flushed properly.
Flushing also affects the ‘burn’ of the end product. Next time you’re smoking on some dealer-bought weed, take a look at the ash on the end of the joint; if it’s been properly flushed, the ash should be light grey, with a fine, powdery texture. Ash created from burning weed that hasn’t been flushed will be black, with a much more solid consistency and – in particularly bad cases – can pop and spark as the impurities still contained are ignited.
There are various flushing agents on the market, each based on different techniques of removing, or forcing the use of, excess nutrients stored within the plant. These techniques include;
Stress – when the flush is administered it creates a root stress that forces energy in the plant to be expended, therefore using up the excess nutrients stored and ripening the plant at the same time. Some of the flushes that employ this technique are so powerful that they actually destroy the roots of the plant, triggering a survival instinct, forcing all of the energy into reproduction (i.e. the buds).
Mineral salts – a good technique for pure hydroponic systems where the roots are exposed. Large mineral particles are added to the flushing solution, these particles are too large to be taken up by the plant, but when washed through the roots will attract any excess mineral deposits that have built up and wash them away.
Hormones – flushes containing natural plant hormones will trigger a natural reaction in the plant that forces it to mature and finish. This uses up excess minerals stored and also ripens the fruit, improving quality and yield.
Some of the better flushes on the
market use a combination of techniques to get the best result. However, if you’re down to your last few pennies and decide to scrimp on a flushing agent, try giving your plant water with a pH of 5 for three or four days. The acidic water will stress the plant and force it to use up any excess of salts.
Flushing additives
Not every additive is designed to increase yield. Quality is as important as quantity. Any plant that has been raised on mineral feeds and additives should be flushed, regardless of the growing method or growing medium used. In hydroponic growing methods plants usually have constant access to mineral nutrients and, provided the solution in the reservoir is balanced, will constantly take all the elements they need via active uptake. These elements will be stored, in the root zone and plant sap, all the way until harvest.
End product from plants that have not been flushed can suffer from a ‘chemical’ taste, smokers often complain that hydroponically grown weed has a different taste from soil grown, whereas in reality it is more likely that it just hasn’t been flushed properly.
Flushing also affects the ‘burn’ of the end product. Next time you’re smoking on some dealer-bought weed, take a look at the ash on the end of the joint; if it’s been properly flushed, the ash should be light grey, with a fine, powdery texture. Ash created from burning weed that hasn’t been flushed will be black, with a much more solid consistency and – in particularly bad cases – can pop and spark as the impurities still contained are ignited.
There are various flushing agents on the market, each based on different techniques of removing, or forcing the use of, excess nutrients stored within the plant. These techniques include;
Stress – when the flush is administered it creates a root stress that forces energy in the plant to be expended, therefore using up the excess nutrients stored and ripening the plant at the same time. Some of the flushes that employ this technique are so powerful that they actually destroy the roots of the plant, triggering a survival instinct, forcing all of the energy into reproduction (i.e. the buds).
Mineral salts – a good technique for pure hydroponic systems where the roots are exposed. Large mineral particles are added to the flushing solution, these particles are too large to be taken up by the plant, but when washed through the roots will attract any excess mineral deposits that have built up and wash them away.
Hormones – flushes containing natural plant hormones will trigger a natural reaction in the plant that forces it to mature and finish. This uses up excess minerals stored and also ripens the fruit, improving quality and yield.
Some of the better flushes on the
market use a combination of techniques to get the best result. However, if you’re down to your last few pennies and decide to scrimp on a flushing agent, try giving your plant water with a pH of 5 for three or four days. The acidic water will stress the plant and force it to use up any excess of salts.
chuck estevez
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But,but, AN uses superior salts and my buddy got a .5 gram per watt difference using AN.The AN love/hate stuff is fucking hilarious. Grown men arguing over a chemical fertilizers....outstanding!
Merlot
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Some of the better flushes on the
market use a combination of techniques to get the best result. However, if you’re down to your last few pennies and decide to scrimp on a flushing agent, try giving your plant water with a pH of 5 for three or four days. The acidic water will stress the plant and force it to use up any excess of salts.
That's comedy gold right their....flushing with chemicals to get rid of chemicals
market use a combination of techniques to get the best result. However, if you’re down to your last few pennies and decide to scrimp on a flushing agent, try giving your plant water with a pH of 5 for three or four days. The acidic water will stress the plant and force it to use up any excess of salts.
That's comedy gold right their....flushing with chemicals to get rid of chemicals
SourD420
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Lol youre funny. Id rather get another lb of product over not anyday. Not sure how you think thats not a big deal