CannaReview
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Ok found this http://former.vancouver.ca/ctyclerk/cclerk/20150428/documents/rr1.pdf Looks like I got my work cut out.
Medical Marijuana In Vancouver Should Be More Regulated: City
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$1000 for non profits is still probably way over what they charge for other non profit org business licenses, but a small cost to pay the piper.
The hard part is finding a decent location, surely there is a realtor or two focusing on this market?
$1K plus rent, and wages to open a store front with protection from the city and police, sounds pretty nice!
Let us know how it goes CannaReview!
The hard part is finding a decent location, surely there is a realtor or two focusing on this market?
$1K plus rent, and wages to open a store front with protection from the city and police, sounds pretty nice!
Let us know how it goes CannaReview!
CannaReview
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I already heard through the grapevine that if you mention dispensary the landlords magically thinks its a license to print money. Will see how it goes my buddy has Tousaw on retainer so we're just waiting to set up a date to talk to him. Its been decided that we'll pay the $30K which as long as I can use as a write off at the end of the year would bring corporate tax down pretty good. Well probably get a big chunk back the first year anyways but the 30K would cover 90% of an employees wage. No edibles does suck as that can be made in house, would be awesome to have a food production kitchen at the dispensary with fresh baked goods
Yeah I can see the dollar signs in landlords eye's, would be really nice to have the ability to purchase a property but we're talking nearly the highest real estate prices on the planet.
Section 24.5(3)No corporation shall carry on the business of a Retail Dealer – Medical Marijuana-related, except that a society registered under the Society Act may carry on the business of a Retail Dealer – Medical Marijuanarelated.
Thought that was interesting in the bylaws.
The edible thing sucks, but for us its not so bad, we only process the raw oils and leave the baking(if desired) up to the patient already, so we're all ready to go with that one. Pretty sure you could put infused oil in capsules as well for a ready to consume product.
My big q is Victoria or Vancouver?!
Section 24.5(3)No corporation shall carry on the business of a Retail Dealer – Medical Marijuana-related, except that a society registered under the Society Act may carry on the business of a Retail Dealer – Medical Marijuanarelated.
Thought that was interesting in the bylaws.
The edible thing sucks, but for us its not so bad, we only process the raw oils and leave the baking(if desired) up to the patient already, so we're all ready to go with that one. Pretty sure you could put infused oil in capsules as well for a ready to consume product.
My big q is Victoria or Vancouver?!
CannaReview
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Yah not sure what that means, that's why I'm waiting to talk to the lawyer. So they want you to be a proprietorship? How stupid is that. Any ltd company is a corporation and there are good legitimate reasons to have a ltd company.
I can only choose Vancouver other wise can't get the funds. I have another option to start in anther town but its RCMP based and I can't see there being that much business there and lets not forget this is about having a business while trying to give users access to cheaper than LP and Black market cannabis. There's no point of starting one if you can't make money to make a living, cover the employee costs and cover the purchase of weed unless you can grow it yourself.
Its an odd one, I mean if you have to have a proprietorship or partnership it couldnt be that much more difficult to go down the non profit road. Which leads to another question, in order to qualify as a non profit you have to be "duly registered" or some such, which at least around my parts(prov) means you have to incorporate your non profit. Seems odd and I guess thats why lawyers and politicians have jobs, they're decent at making work for themselves.
Good call on places using RCMP, it does suck not being able to operate in locations far away from places that already have at least decent access, but as you say when the choice comes down to it being able to operate at all and help who you can out ranks pushing the limits in other places that will surely have the consequences of being red taped, litigated and charged with crimes which will surely limit ones effectiveness.
Also, there is no mention of the reduced fee for non profits in those regs/bylaws.
Good call on places using RCMP, it does suck not being able to operate in locations far away from places that already have at least decent access, but as you say when the choice comes down to it being able to operate at all and help who you can out ranks pushing the limits in other places that will surely have the consequences of being red taped, litigated and charged with crimes which will surely limit ones effectiveness.
Also, there is no mention of the reduced fee for non profits in those regs/bylaws.
c ray
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there's much more to it than just being a non-profit to qualify for the 1k.. gotta read the fine print, and know that these specs were crafted with the help of mainly bcccs, to favour them.. those 4 bcccs, dana and the the others are shoe in's, while the others will fight depending on location.. also good luck getting a non-profit registered, finding a location and having all the requisites in place, renovating the shop, hiring staff, etc etc.. that's a tight timeline and also there is no guarantee they will issue a license.. looking at how the application process works if one was not able to find a clear spot I would say find a thug dispensary in a clear spot more than 300m away from schools, community centres, neighborhood houses and open within 300m of them, hire staff with only clean records (4 demerits) and do whatever else to keep the demerits down.. I'm sure it would not be hard to find a dispensary run by someone with a record lol.. get a nice hippy girl to claim ownership and hire only nice clean girls for staff.. good luck canna, now is the time to get established because these shops could be the model for rec/coffee shops in the near future, and they could be grandfathered for some time.. could be the only time to get in for a while..
I don't think it's stupid on their part by wanting this....I can see clearly why they want to do that.
Non Profit has to be Inc. I thought.
Trying to find the bylaw or document with the details for licensing regarding non profits.
To add to the confusion, the quote about non profits on the previous page from c-ray states that the compassion club must provide a minimum level of non-marijuana health services (e.g. massage therapy, acupuncture), which goes against the bylaws posted by cannareview, which states; No person shall carry on any business other than Retail Dealer – Medical Marijuana-related on the business premises.
The other point about having to be a member of Canadian Association of Medical Cannabis Dispensaries is bullshit. Do the "compassion clubs" provide a significant discount on their prices compared to the other for profit stores?!?
To add to the confusion, the quote about non profits on the previous page from c-ray states that the compassion club must provide a minimum level of non-marijuana health services (e.g. massage therapy, acupuncture), which goes against the bylaws posted by cannareview, which states; No person shall carry on any business other than Retail Dealer – Medical Marijuana-related on the business premises.
The other point about having to be a member of Canadian Association of Medical Cannabis Dispensaries is bullshit. Do the "compassion clubs" provide a significant discount on their prices compared to the other for profit stores?!?
Cant get the details as a bunch of bc gov sites appear to be down or not loading for me at the moment.
You can be a registered society in bc with or without incorporating, but a society must be non profit.
New society regs in the pipe line, makes it easy for non BC residents to form and operate.
If you want to be a member of the Canadian Association of Medical Cannabis Dispensaries the registration process costs $4000 dollars. They have many certification standards that are in contravention of vancouvers bylaws. Not sure how much grease it took to get this requirement implemented.
You can be a registered society in bc with or without incorporating, but a society must be non profit.
New society regs in the pipe line, makes it easy for non BC residents to form and operate.
If you want to be a member of the Canadian Association of Medical Cannabis Dispensaries the registration process costs $4000 dollars. They have many certification standards that are in contravention of vancouvers bylaws. Not sure how much grease it took to get this requirement implemented.
CannaReview
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You can operate a non profit unregistered from what I read or you can incorporate. I think in BC you need min 5 directors to get one. Non profit just means you need to pay people enough to not show any profit at the end of the year other wise you have to invest it back into the society. With normal proprietorship there is just too much legal uncertainty
TheDizzyBizzy
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Haha.
You actually think you are going to open a dispensary in Vancouver NOW and get through the regulatory process? Save your money.
CannaReview
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Funny that's what people said when I opened up my hydro shop 3 years ago. There's no guarantees I'll get it but all it'll cost me is time to try.
yup I think a lot are on the band wagon, from what my source said, as soon as the courts rule the gov will for sure raid every disp, lounge and bong place. even the mayor could go down for allowing it for profit(30k)
id sit back and wait till next yr and see what happens,
if your tied to big bad boys they will make you the goat and fuck you.
id sit back and wait till next yr and see what happens,
if your tied to big bad boys they will make you the goat and fuck you.
CannaReview
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Everyone involved going into this knows there's a risk. As for big bad boys there are more normal people involved in taking risks than organized crime. If the lawyer says there's are serious long term risks then we'll go back to our original plan and open somewhere else.