Should u kill Hilter if u could

ttystikk

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No. You can't just kill him, the world needs to see the monster for what it is, otherwise society will never learn.

This goes for Donald Trump and countless others, too.
 

justugh

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No. You can't just kill him, the world needs to see the monster for what it is, otherwise society will never learn.

This goes for Donald Trump and countless others, too.
..humans never learn we are repeating the same 700 year cycle as we always have ......start a new great ideas and morals over time they are altered changed until one point greed takes over and decline starts ....then revolt and start it over

we when over the edge back in the 1800s ....at some point there will be a national/global ID put in place so ppl can feel safe that is the start of the end ( u need proof we are in decline look at prime time tv )

and everyone that is talking about altering the timeline including myself rem the show Sliders ........that is why i was avoiding that chat it can go forever with no end and everyone right at some point
 

Chester da Horse

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can't we go back in time and help him finish his final solution?

or here's a better one, introduce proper health and hygiene standards to the colonising white people so the indigenous populations of the new world and Australia wouldn't have to be genocided by small pox and other infectious white man diseases?

there are so many more worthy things we could do, than worry about one of the many psychopath warlords who have raped and ravaged through history - i don't even think (in % genocided compared to the world population alive at the time) that Hitler really matches up to some of the more savage nut jobs in our dark past.
 

Chester da Horse

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because it is a ? that should be asked and answered

come on haven't u figured out this thing here is just one giant social exp to me .......each answer/response it get gives me more info

i am bored and want something to do so this passes the time .......other then helping ppl out with growing (in all honestly that can be counted as selfish as their problems improve my skills and understanding ).....video games are to easy ...news is to depressing ....drinking is only fun now and then ...been raining so riding around is out of the ?

and the final reason i think all the time .......i mean i look up more subjects in a day then most ppl do in a month .....if i do not dump some of it out now and then i will truly go insane then a bunch of bad things will happen so ....your doing a public service keeping me sane ....well to a lvl where i do not wish for death
i saw myself looking at myself through the mirror of the keyboard and saw myself looking @justugh...

help me die please...
please
 

justugh

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can't we go back in time and help him finish his final solution?

or here's a better one, introduce proper health and hygiene standards to the colonising white people so the indigenous populations of the new world and Australia wouldn't have to be genocided by small pox and other infectious white man diseases?

there are so many more worthy things we could do, than worry about one of the many psychopath warlords who have raped and ravaged through history - i don't even think (in % genocided compared to the world population alive at the time) that Hitler really matches up to some of the more savage nut jobs in our dark past.
the sad thing is honestly nothing u could do with out aid of a time machine and few million bullets ....c4 ...flame thrower ...that sonic weapon they use in riots
law one on this planet since the dawn of time .......do what i say or i will hurt u .....it has never changed even today .......do not do what a cop saids get maced tazed or shot

isis is just another form that is more open ........do what i say think the way i say it and live otherwise we kill u

that was entertaining ......thanks
 

Chester da Horse

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u came to my show

means u want to play .....i am not the one that poked u ....u started now want to be like congress and go home do nothing

all good as a american i am use to do nothing
hahahaha. perfect burn.

across time and space, the truth lies in the gaps between what we perceive, for in the silence we find our answers...

our political class is paid to do nothing, or get in the way of things when needed so the fat cats in charge can play on how they want... you and I are but silly little stoned internet amorphist entities duking it out for imaginary ego points and kudos. why oh why isn't there a more productive outlet for our collective intelligentsiae???
 

justugh

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Hitler was just a mosquito, created by the same system that is much stronger today...

what
i hate the guy ....but he is one of the only person in history to effect the world on a scale that applies to world wide

the only ppl that WW2 did not effect was tribes of ppl living in the forests or island that never sawl anything (one tribe was so messed by what they sawl they worship Planes) ......ppl been using the studies of that tribe to compare it to if aliens showed up how would we react .....primitive meets tech
 

GrowUrOwnDank

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hi

i have hurt my head with this debate for years .......so i am sharing the pain in hopes of coming to a answer

for sake of argument say time travel is possible and more then just a 3rd party view but actually physical transfer were u are able to alter the space around u as u do now in daily life

now u have travel back to a point before hilter started his raise to power before or after ww1
u have a clean way to take Hilter out (as he is not protected just avg joe on the streets)

can u justify killing one of the worst ppl to live knowing it would alter everything u knew ( and before u said well if u change to much time travel is not possible so it would reset back to standard one causing a loop....to time travel the means of transport would have to be removed from the fixed timeline there by protecting it from any changes in the timeline )

killing hilter alters things to a extreme ......1 the tech development is slowed down.....2 the ppl that did not die would have children so whole new genetic possibility...3 isreal would not have been re founded ...the whole event time line would change so only japan was the one we are after.....4 europe would be altered do to USSR not fighting on that front the aggression would be displaced to something else ....5 england would of never been bombed or had to ask for help with supplies ...6 alot of art and history would not have been lost

those are just some of the bigger things killing hilter is not possible as i can see it due to the fact his choices effected the world on a scale this large removing him would alter everything with in the last 60 plus years
Why not just go back to the earliest point in recorded history and send some engineers and teachers to teach the people to build out all the modern technology we have today. Expedite te evolution in technology. You know, give them the knowledge they need to make cars, planes and trains, transportation, and all the internet knowledge to save the knowledge and computer technology to aid in creating new technologies. Also, teach them modern architecture, materials, manufacturing technologies. Don't forget teach them modern farming cultivation and medical technologies. And any other technology I did not list.

Before you know it, they will have modern day weapons like we do and just be kill in each other in nations and communities all over the world. And in the streets. But, if they don't die at least the modern day medical tech can put them back together.

I dunno man. The senseless killing is very sad that has happened and continues to occur every day in all of our communities. I personally think the human race is insane. I get the 1%ers, there goal is to have enough resources so they can isolate themselves from this modern day mayhem.

That tragic day of death will come to us all. We all hope we will be the one to die of old age after we have worn our bodies and mind down to the point that modern medical technology can no longer repair us. And we are old and tired. We ache and have pains.

But, unfortunately, sometimes death comes to us inexcusably under terribly sad circumstances. Like rape, murder genocide whatever. That's why I believe in God. Not the old your spirit walks around heaven forever, but lives on in your work and the progressive things you pass on.

150 IQ is a mother brother. I think about stuff like this all the time.
 

justugh

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Why not just go back to the earliest point in recorded history and send some engineers and teachers to teach the people to build out all the modern technology we have today. Expedite te evolution in technology. You know, give them the knowledge they need to make cars, planes and trains, transportation, and all the internet knowledge to save the knowledge and computer technology to aid in creating new technologies. Also, teach them modern architecture, materials, manufacturing technologies. Don't forget teach them modern farming cultivation and medical technologies. And any other technology I did not list.

Before you know it, they will have modern day weapons like we do and just be kill in each other in nations and communities all over the world. And in the streets. But, if they don't die at least the modern day medical tech can put them back together.

I dunno man. The senseless killing is very sad that has happened and continues to occur every day in all of our communities. I personally think the human race is insane. I get the 1%ers, there goal is to have enough resources so they can isolate themselves from this modern day mayhem.

That tragic day of death will come to us all. We all hope we will be the one to die of old age after we have worn our bodies and mind down to the point that modern medical technology can no longer repair us. And we are old and tired. We ache and have pains.

But, unfortunately, sometimes death comes to us inexcusably under very

if u look at history ......the golden age they were 1 step away from the steam engine
something or someone taught them a great deal ..........they had water powered mills........ they built boats the size of nothing we can do today ..greek fire they still have no idea how that was made....they found proof of brain surgery and the person lived from 3000 years ago....indoor plumbing....cranes that lifted 10/20 tons

but then u have to account for greed.......ppl want power over other ppl ......so science and info was horded the golden age dies and then u got dark ages and midevil age .........those years the info was controlled and it was almost illegal to think for yourself (unless the church agreed with it u could be killed )

so even if u did travel back to the start and teach ppl ....they will lose it someone will take the info and keep it for self

if u think about all the research that is going on now..........i mean all of it ........if they would combine all the info into one system most of the problems we have now could be removed (but they do not share they say my ball u can not use) ...........it took a act of supreme court to rule natural DNA can not be patented ( at one time 20% of our dna was patented and owned by a biz) ........did u know they have ppl that have a genetic immunity to AIDS (they knew about these families and they owned the DNA ) now that it is free AIDS treatment is advancing at a staggering rate ( buddy in the bio field)
 

GrowUrOwnDank

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if u look at history ......the golden age they were 1 step away from the steam engine
something or someone taught them a great deal ..........they had water powered mills........ they built boats the size of nothing we can do today ..greek fire they still have no idea how that was made....they found proof of brain surgery and the person lived from 3000 years ago

but then u have to account for greed.......ppl want power over other ppl ......so science and info was horded the golden age dies and then u got dark ages and midevil age .........those years the info was controlled and it was almost illegal to think for yourself (unless the church agreed with it u could be killed )

so even if u did travel back to the start and teach ppl ....they will lose it someone will take the info and keep it for self

if u think about all the research that is going on now..........i mean all of it ........if they would combine all the info into one system most of the problems we have now could be removed (but they do not share they say my ball u can not use ...........it took a act of supreme court to rule natural DNA can not be patented ( at one time 20% of our dna was patented and owned by a biz) ........did u know they have ppl that have a genetic immunity to AIDS (they knew about these families and they owned the DNA ) now that it is free AIDS treatment is advancing at a staggering rate ( buddy in the bio field)
Dude your slipping in your response. You should read my post again and understand it for the philosophical content. Not to try and argue against. Look at the wild. How sad is it the baby antelope or its mother is eaten by the Lion. You gonna send Lion Whisperer back in time to teach te Lions to only eat vegetables? Life's a bitch. Everyone must be prepared for death. I am. I turned 50 this year. I've been all over the country and experienced all kinda crazy good times. Some dangerous and some just fun. I didn't think I would ever make it to 30 and then 40. 50 is just icing on the cake. I tell my wife. If I die. Don't be sad. I lived like a mofo back in da day normal people wouldn't have the balls to teeter on the edge. Now I got aches and pains and not as agile as I once was. But, I still kick ass compared to most my age. So, I'm gonna live for today bro. I'm gonna eek me out a little fun today. Find a way to smile learn some shit with Google. Have a few beers and some smoke. Damn, forgot papers again. Off to the store before I drink this beer. Have a good day bro.
 

justugh

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Dude your slipping in your response. You should read my post again and understand it for the philosophical content. Not to try and argue against. Look at the wild. How sad is it the baby antelope or its mother is eaten by the Lion. You gonna send Lion Whisperer back in time to teach te Lions to only eat vegetables? Life's a bitch. Everyone must be prepared for death. I am. I turned 50 this year. I've been all over the country and experienced all kinda crazy good times. Some dangerous and some just fun. I didn't think I would ever make it to 30 and then 40. 50 is just icing on the cake. I tell my wife. If I die. Don't be sad. I lived like a mofo back in da day normal people wouldn't have the balls to teeter on the edge. Now I got aches and pains and not as agile as I once was. But, I still kick ass compared to most my age. So, I'm gonna live for today bro. I'm gonna eek me out a little fun today. Find a way to smile learn some shit with Google. Have a few beers and some smoke. Damn, forgot papers again. Off to the store before I drink this beer. Have a good day bro.
no all that was to post i thought about it

if u were to tell someone in the past every evil person name ....when they are borne where by who (the odds that info is acted on is slim as it would be taken by someone and used to change things as we know it there by altering what was to come so the list would be no good in parts )

the only way to kill a hilter is to travel from your point to his (with in the same history ) then kill him altering history to a different path a different possible world .........what some ppl are arguing that the fact u change history u can/would change yourself there by causing a temporal loop A leads to B leads to C that leads back to A

but for it to be possible to travel in time that person and machine would need to be untethered from the time line allowing them to move with in the time line (the machine and anything inside of it would be safe from the changes as they are not part of the time line when it was altered)

the whole ? was designed to make ppl think on a deeper level and force forward thinking of the possible outcomes

altering say Hannibal or Alexander the great ......would also change the world in a way as hilter would there by altering events later so hilter might not be hilter .......could be jackson (this is where it gets fun some ppl define fate/destiny as a event but the outcome is forge by freewill ) so altering one of those 2 would be fun to see if a new hilter would raise in the same time period as he did
 

GrowUrOwnDank

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no all that was to post i thought about it

if u were to tell someone in the past every evil person name ....when they are borne where by who (the odds that info is acted on is slim as it would be taken by someone and used to change things as we know it there by altering what was to come so the list would be no good in parts )

the only way to kill a hilter is to travel from your point to his (with in the same history ) then kill him altering history to a different path a different possible world .........what some ppl are arguing that the fact u change history u can/would change yourself there by causing a temporal loop A leads to B leads to C that leads back to A

but for it to be possible to travel in time that person and machine would need to be untethered from the time line allowing them to move with in the time line (the machine and anything inside of it would be safe from the changes as they are not part of the time line when it was altered)

the whole ? was designed to make ppl think on a deeper level and force forward thinking of the possible outcomes

altering say Hannibal or Alexander the great ......would also change the world in a way as hilter would there by altering events later so hilter might not be hilter .......could be jackson (this is where it gets fun some ppl define fate/destiny as a event but the outcome is forge by freewill ) so altering one of those 2 would be fun to see if a new hilter would raise in the same time period as he did
Come on bro. It's all about right now and tomorrow. Seriously, "what if" thinking may be fun but, you're just masterbating. You wanna control time? Control the right now and do something at this time. The one thing for sure is you're gonna die. You can't do nothing bout that.

Many died by Hitlers actions. The holocaust is disgusting. But, YOU DID NOT LIVE THAT ERA AND NEVER MET ANY OF THEM BEFORE THEY DIED! And each of them occupied only one space. They died as individuals.

Now, consider the black person who was tortured and killed down in Mississippi by teenagers. He was abused and murdered by white racist trash. His family probably loved him and cried. That is recent.

Now also consider the young recent college graduate down in the St. Louis near the Ferguson riots. He was riding in his car, some kids blocked his car and he got out and they beat him with a hammer in front of his young fiancé.

Consider moms that lose their babies in gang warfare everyday. Or the liquor store owner just tying to make a living and gets robbed/killed.

Now consider each individual among the BILLIONS who have been murdered over the time of this planet. For no reason except human insanity.

And someday you and I will die, hopefully of old age, or in my case cause I'm still a lil crazy and and abuse my own body.

Now is time. Tomorrow is time. Yesterday is the past. Consider every mother, brother, wife, child or any other relation when a tragic death is cut short. It's sad bro.

Just saying. Gotta live bro.
 
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