Droopy plant, not sure whats up,some advice?

[Cataclysmalice]

I just got a clone a few days ago and being the inexperienced noob I am, I over watered it. This happened two days ago, since then its been droopy. It has airflow, drainholes, air holes (for air to reach roots better), heat and light and the soil is just about dry yet it is still very droopy, more then when I had over watered it two days before. I'm a little worried I may have killed it but I'm not an expert. So any one have any advice or explanation for this happening?
If so, please tell me! I've grown attached to the little thing lol.

I have just moved it outside on the porch to get natural sunlight and some air.

specs: INDOOR
LED 8w light (upgrading on wednesday to 60w)
2ft UV blacklight (for heat and UV until wednesday)
1 Mini UV lamp on side of pot
Occasional Hanging LED light 5w
Organic compost soil

 

[Desr]

Dont water it. It looks on the verge of either dying or making it..make sure you have good airflow to evaporate as much moisture as possible. Itll perk back up if its gonna make it.

 

[kcjane]

definitely looks over watered, I'm kinda going through the same thing using too heavy of a potting soil. I should know better

 

[kcjane]

definitely over watered, going through the same thing seeds into heavy of a potting soil didn't realize overwatering is killing one of my best plants and I should know better

 

[AllenHaze]

The leaves actually look under watered. The plant also looks as if it is just waking up and hasn't reached for the sky yet. They don't appear to have that, "soft and rounded" look that over watered leaves develop. Is it a rooted clone? If the roots are underdeveloped or non existent then that could be causing a water uptake issue.

 

[Cataclysmalice]

Okay, thanks guys that helps alot, hopefully it makes it! Maybe i should keep it outside for alittle while today, see if it perks up.

 

[Cataclysmalice]

The leaves actually look under watered. The plant also looks as if it is just waking up and hasn't reached for the sky yet. They don't appear to have that, "soft and rounded" look that over watered leaves develop. Is it a rooted clone? If not it might not be getting the water it needs.

Im not entirely sure if its rooted yet, I had put rooting powder on the end when I planted it and had watered it thoroughly the day I planted it. I was reading up on it and I figured it was over watering, I used about 2 liters of water on that thing by accident with in a few hours.

 

[sno capz]

Do you see the darkness in soil color from where the base of the main stem is and the difference in the lighter color around the edge of the pot? That's the difference between dry and wet.

First your soil looks like it has nothing added to it for drainage... Perlite, hydroton, etc...

These clones already had an established root system prior to inheriting?

 

[Cataclysmalice]

UPDATE, outside made it worse! I do believe it is actually dehydrated to an extreme! it much more droopy. i jsut brought ti in and give it a little water. I hope this brings it back round!

 

[Cataclysmalice]

Do you see the darkness in soil color from where the base of the main stem is and the difference in the lighter color around the edge of the pot? That's the difference between dry and wet.

First your soil looks like it has nothing added to it for drainage... Perlite, hydroton, etc...

These clones already had an established root system prior to inheriting?

No it was a fresh clipping off of a plant. It has 3 big drain holes in the bottom of the pot.

 

[AllenHaze]

I'd keep an eye on it if you choose not to use a clone-dome (not advisable). I'm sure you already know but the point of a dome is to maintain ambient humidity while the plant establishes a root system; the leaves will absorb the water in the air. It looks exactly as you have stated; a clone, that has not rooted yet. You may have washed away much of the cloning powder with your recent watering as well. While not always necessary, it is ideal to pre-moisten the soil, especially if using a powder. Then leave it for a few days. GL

 

[sno capz]

If this is not rooted already then that's your problem as well.... If you continue to water without sufficient drainage the stem will rot before being able to establish roots.

Things needed when cloning..
(not everyone uses these things but they will make your life easier for rooting clones)

Plant tray w/ humidity dome
Seedling heating mat
Two cfl spiral bulbs and aluminum fixtures... Low wattage bulbs at 6500k
Rooting hormone(gel or powder)
CloneX Rooting solution(or similar)
Coco plug or rockwool cube
pH 5.9-6.1 water

When cloning follow these steps...

1.) Cut stem at a 45 degree angle with a sterile razor blade.
2.) Shave a very thin layer of the stems "skin" with a sterile razor blade.
3.) Dip stem end into a cup of water to remove any air embolism.
4.) Dip stem end into rotting hormone for 15-20 seconds
5.) Carefully stick the cutting in a plug or rockwool cube.
6.) Place seedling heating mat on a table or stand under your lights.
7.) Place the plant tray onto your heating mat.
8.) Place plugs/cubes with cuttings inside your plant tray.
9.) Pour pH 5.9-6.1 water into the bottom of the plant tray.
10.) Spray leaves with same pH water.
11.) Place humidity dome on top of the plant tray.
12.) Hang lights above the humidity some and place on a 18 on/6 off light schedule.
13.) Leave humidity dome on and closed for 2-3 weeks and only open it to replace water in the bottom of the tray or to spray your leaves. Clones can only feed from their leaves since they have no roots yet.

 

[sno capz]

This is my DIY clone setup and it works great...

Had germinated seeds in it for a while that a friend had given to me but he germinated them to long and they died... So now I have two cuttings in there that are from a Cherry OG and only drooped the first night they were cut but stood straight up the following morning. I'm currently on day 7 and have no drooping problems or deficiency issues. I use Coco plugs and always presoak in pH 5.9 water, clonex and worm tea and follow the same steps as I shared above and I never have any problems...

 

[sno capz]

Another word of advice.... Cut half of the larger fan leaves off to encourage further growth

 

[sno capz]

Do everything I mentioned and it will be just fine...

Plant tray and humidity dome - $10
Seedling heat mat - $25-$30
Spray Bottle - $3
Coco/hydroton plug or cube - $1 each
Rooting hormone - $22
Rooting sloution(for presoak) - $25

 

[sno capz]

I just checked my clones...

7 days from cutting using everything I mentioned above and by following the simple steps that I listed...

 

[AllenHaze]

Good stuff snowcaps. Cutting half the fan leaves off does not encourage extra growth though. What it does is limit the surface area for transpiration resulting in less water loss for the plant. Without roots there is minimal, new nutrient and water content coming into the plant. A fresh cutting is doing very little other than using everything it has to put out roots to sustain itself; it will pull phosphorous right out of the stem and leaves for example.

 

[rickylaging]

I'm kinda in the same boat I think my plant became root bound 3 days apart from pictures

 

[akhiymjames]

View attachment 3460290 View attachment 3460291 I'm kinda in the same boat I think my plant became root bound 3 days apart from pictures

What yours look like is its experiencing is being root bound and drying out too fast and not having enough water and being to close to that light. From hat I hear LED has a strong intensity and being that close could be hurting them but yours look dehydrated too. Your plant is in flower and they drink like fishes when they start making bud and depending on the temps in your space could lead to it drying out to fast

Also I see something in that last pic I don't do is let pot sit in stagnant runoff. After the plants get done draining from being watered I dump that out. Some roots can get rot from being soaked in water under the pot so dump that. Whatever cultivar that was is too big for you space. She need to be flipped a while ago or trained to be smaller. Hopes she picks back up for you but I think your girl is too close to that light and its frying her or she's root bound and drying out to fast coupled with being too close to the light.

 

[akhiymjames]

Great info @sno capz you def gave him the right info on what to do next time. You have to root your cuts before you can plant them. Here's a simple way to root cuttings without all of those materials needed.

Same process when you takes cones off your mother or vegging plant. Cut at angle and sit them in water. I sit about 4 cuttings in a cup of tap water and placed this cup in a corner of the veg room or I sit it somewhere close to a windo where it receives a lot of daylight. It will root in the cup of water in 2-3 weeks. Very simple but the main thing when doing this is they can't be placed where the light intensity is very strong that's why I place it in the corner of my veg tent as it not getting blasted with full light or on my window sill in the kitchen. Low light levels is what keeps the cutting from synthesizing and trying to grow so they will stay much greener and healthier. When cutting are yellowing at the tips it's cuts they're starting to eat the food stored in the leaves becaus they are trying to grow. That's why you saw sno capz cut the tips of the leaves off cuz it helps them from trying to eat themselves up. Low light levels and at least 16 hours of light on them and you should have roots. As you see those lights sno capz has isn't that strong at all a small cfl bulb will do and those cuttings will root in water.

This process is slower than using plugs or rockwool and rooting hormones so you have to be patient and you have to switch the water out every few days. The cutting can stay in water light this for months. Just don't let the water dry out, swap it out for fresh water every few days and don't put strong light over them and you will have roots on your cuttings. Oh and same thing applies when using plugs or rockwool or peat but some strains root faster than others and some won't root at all do it depends.