driving and carrying MMJ

[doingdishes]

well i found out something interesting-a friends son was pulled over and they found about a gram of MJ. cop asks if he has MMAR or MMPR so he says yes and shows his paperwork. cop gives back him MJ and tells him he will be hearing from ICBC-car insurer here in BC....so about a month or so later he got a letter from ICBC asking for him to fill out a form regarding why he needs MMJ and has to get his Dr to sign the paperwork. he also has to state what diseases he may get in the future...?? if he doesn't do the paperwork, he will lose his license.
how messed up is that? people driving while underr the major influence of pharma and that's OK but because he is a MMJ patient he has to jump through hoops...not right

 

[WHATFG]

They best ask all the people in AA if there ever going to drink again...

 

[Gmack420]

well i found out something interesting-a friends son was pulled over and they found about a gram of MJ. cop asks if he has MMAR or MMPR so he says yes and shows his paperwork. cop gives back him MJ and tells him he will be hearing from ICBC-car insurer here in BC....so about a month or so later he got a letter from ICBC asking for him to fill out a form regarding why he needs MMJ and has to get his Dr to sign the paperwork. he also has to state what diseases he may get in the future...?? if he doesn't do the paperwork, he will lose his license.
how messed up is that? people driving while underr the major influence of pharma and that's OK but because he is a MMJ patient he has to jump through hoops...not right

Tell him to fight it. They can't withhold his license due to medication he's been legally prescribed or aske for proof of his perscription. It violates his right to patient doctor confidentiality. It's none of icbc's fuxking business. If he can pass a sobriety test is all the cops and icbc need to be concerned about.

 

[Jackal69]

Well if you ever looked at the back of your form you fill to get a license. ... they have medications you list.... he should have put it there.... like any precribed narcotic that may effect your driving. You go on a probationary period no tickets or accedents full license back

Many people do not really understand about it.... that was the Alberta way
Oh yeah the doctor just wrote me up a physical type form from the dmv

It was for morphine

 

[Medipuffs]

when you fill out your forms for your license they ask about medical conditions (epilepsy etc..) which would cause you to have issues driving reliably 100% of the time and they also ask you about medications (narcotics). If they deem a certain medication an intoxicant you cannot drive. They don't care about your access to driving if you are not sober. Bottom line for them is risk and someone who is medicated/intoxicated with any substance (a subjective designation for sure) is a risk, to themselves and to other drivers.

I just read Jackal69's post and was not aware of a probationary period, which seems rather fair given the circumstances both parties are facing, patients and insurance companies alike as opposed to a null and void designation where you cannot drive.

Here is hoping for the best for your friend and that the issue is solved at a high enough level that it is rectified for the general public.

Enjoy the beautiful weather and have a nice weekend!

 

[Jackal69]

If your falling on your face wasted... maybe you should not drive lol

 

[Jackal69]

Old people after a certain age should have to do a driver test in vehicle every year

 

[Jackal69]

They talk about grandma's medicine cabinet is the place to go to get wicked drugs..... yet name one old person that actually tells these guys what med they take..... probably scared they may lose the ablitiy to drive. Sad eh.

 

[WHATFG]

I didn't tell anyone shit about my taking morphine...I hate driving though so I wouldn't drive unless I had to...but that is the point...people fried on pharmas driving around intoxicated....I smoke then I drive....no smoke no drive because I would probably be too fucking angry...

 

[Gmack420]

lol how many of you disclosed your medical conditions and medications to get your current dl? My guess is none of you did. If you have epilepsy or are legal blind ect it's your doctors legal obligation to inform the govement body in your province of your condition that would preclude you from driving. you do not need to disclose your medical conditions and medications you are on to any govement body/department. Just put a big X through that section. If you can pass the sobriety test it doesn't matter what's in your body (except for alcohol) the notion that a cop can send a request off to your govement mandated only provider insurance company requiring you to disclose your medical conditions and medications is ludicrous.

 

[CannaReview]

Well if he fills it out that should legitimize medical cannabis even more. It'll be part of the stats.

 

[doingdishes]

he is going to fight it..that's crazy....another way to screw you if you're a patient....i told my wife that if we get pulled over, the passenger claims it.

 

[CannaReview]

he is going to fight it..that's crazy....another way to screw you if you're a patient....i told my wife that if we get pulled over, the passenger claims it.

If they smell smoke in the car they can charge the driver with being under influence even if the passenger has it/smoked it. In this instance I would just do it and then you can get pulled over with weed all you want. It's now legally on your divers license.

 

[Gmack420]

If they smell smoke in the car they can charge the driver with being under influence even if the passenger has it/smoked it. In this instance I would just do it and then you can get pulled over with weed all you want. It's now legally on your divers license.

No they can't you have to have failed field sobriety test or refused to take them to be charged with DUI for weed. possession by any occupant I n the vehicle you're operating is not sufficient to secure a conviction for DUI in Canada in any province. I know this from multiple FIRST HAND experiences in multiple provinces by multiple police forces.

 

[Jackal69]

Well I would fight it in court. Maybe a win would make it equal to pharma pills then

I don't drive when I'm too stoned.... shit it's when ya feel normal is when ya should drive.... by normal I mean buzzed not wasted too easy for ya to wait 10 mind after smoking a joint eh
It's all common sense, when people fuck things up is only when rules apply

 

[Gmack420]

Well I would fight it in court. Maybe a win would make it equal to pharma pills then

I don't drive when I'm too stoned.... shit it's when ya feel normal is when ya should drive.... by normal I mean buzzed not wasted too easy for ya to wait 10 mind after smoking a joint eh
It's all common sense, when people fuck things up is only when rules apply

Show me in the criminal code of canada or the highway traffic act where possession by the driver or passenger means the driver can be charged with impaired driving. No such rule/law exit's. It isn't the law and shouldn't be repeated in a public forum as such.

 

[doingdishes]

the letter came from ICBC..he was not charged with anything.
Insurance Corporation of British Columbia (ICBC) is asking that he get his Dr to fill out the paperwork or lose his license...the problem he has now is that the Dr who signed his MMAR papers won't have anything to do with MMJ anymore so he needs to find another Dr.
he is going to fight having to fill out the paperwork but now that some people have brought up they can ask that you disclose medications for your license, that's a hurdle....hmmmm

 

[Gmack420]

the letter came from ICBC..he was not charged with anything.
Insurance Corporation of British Columbia (ICBC) is asking that he get his Dr to fill out the paperwork or lose his license...the problem he has now is that the Dr who signed his MMAR papers won't have anything to do with MMJ anymore so he needs to find another Dr.
he is going to fight having to fill out the paperwork but now that some people have brought up they can ask that you disclose medications for your license, that's a hurdle....hmmmm

He should take it to his family doctor or walk in clinic to have it filled out. Leave doctor who signed mmar paperwork out of it altogether as they are no longer in the patients life. He can't be charged with possession or DUI and they can't deny him his license if he gets the paperwork filled out.

 

[CannaReview]

Show me in the criminal code of canada or the highway traffic act where possession by the driver or passenger means the driver can be charged with impaired driving. No such rule/law exit's. It isn't the law and shouldn't be repeated in a public forum as such.

Well a friend of mine was in a passenger seat smoking while having a valid MMAR. They got pulled over and the cop asked who was smoking. He showed his license. The cop then went to get this gf who was driving for being under the influence of drugs while driving. After some time I believe another cop came and he knew my buddy family and persuaded the first cop to let them go.

 

[CannaReview]

the letter came from ICBC..he was not charged with anything.
Insurance Corporation of British Columbia (ICBC) is asking that he get his Dr to fill out the paperwork or lose his license...the problem he has now is that the Dr who signed his MMAR papers won't have anything to do with MMJ anymore so he needs to find another Dr.
he is going to fight having to fill out the paperwork but now that some people have brought up they can ask that you disclose medications for your license, that's a hurdle....hmmmm

My wives brother because he had seizures had to be on med's for a long time and with no incidents before he could drive again with his doctors permission. If ICBC has those rules you can be if he go into an accident and they found out they, would do what it took to not cover him.