Growing with the Beast

heavyset

heavyset

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Nice buds bro! I just recently went through two bad grows with bag seed , so I decided to go pro. I've got one pyramid seeds white widow auto and a world of seeds strawberry blue. Both are in seedling stage and are feminine seeds. Good job brother I hope you get the yields your looking for and that lemon looks so dank. 420 4Eva!
 
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Cannabil

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BeastGrow said:
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hey man not to chime in or start any controversy. Idk what you're feeding or not feeding but those plants are not right.

Those leaves that have that super dark green/blueish tint with the purple stems is a definite indication something is wrong. Without knowing your nutrient schedule you either overdose nitrogen (indication dark green/blue foliage with burnt tips) or they are phosphorus deficient blueish leaves with purple stems. If you want put up what you are using for nutrients and medium be interested hear some feedback. Maybe have some info can help you out.
 
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Cannabil

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I have never seen plants that dark green/blue color in my life. Serious overdose or deficiency.

Or is it just the camera thats throwing the colors all off? Sorry should have asked you this first. They definetely look really really weird in the photos.
 
BeastGrow

BeastGrow

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earthworm castings and crab meal are my two sources of nitrogen. i assure you its not a toxicity or deficiency for nitrogen. its appears to be approaching nitrogen toxicity. the red stems are likely phosphorous deficiency but thats just minor in my opinion. the dark leaves is combo of nitrogen and genetics though
 
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Cannabil

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Yeah they look super tox out right now. What week flowering is that?
You dont think thats gonna mess up your yields?

So those are grown in super soil your saying? Im surprised they sucked up all that N being in flowering. You werent using any bottle nutrients or anything else? Thats some crazy shit right there brother. Usually they only suck up what they want or need running organics like that. Either way, Thats wild!
 
BeastGrow

BeastGrow

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my mix is the following:

coco coir and peat mixture
epsom salts
earthworm castings
crab meal
kelp meal

supplementing with:
liquid kelp meal
liquid bonemeal
silica blast
 
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Cannabil

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BeastGrow said:
my mix is the following:

coco coir and peat mixture
epsom salts
earthworm castings
crab meal
kelp meal

supplementing with:
liquid kelp meal
liquid bonemeal
silica blast
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Ok now it makes sense. I know you dont know me nor do you need to agree or listen to anything I have to say if you choose. But the castings and crab meal is more than sufficient supply of N for an entire run of veg and bloom. U really dont need the liquid bone meal. The kelp meal in liquid form I wouldnt use either but if you want to use kelp I would just run it very lightly with that mix.

I can promise you that those plants will be healthier and probably yield much higher if you cut out all the liquid on top of whats in that mix. That is definetely what is causing those super dark leaves I promise 110%

Im suprised that they havent gotten crinkly and started turning like golden brown from all that nitrogen to be truthful thats alot of N my dude. I mean alot.
 
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Cannabil

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I would just use worm castings, crab meal and maybe some feather meal which are slow releases.

Those liquid esp bone meal is instant absorbable nitrogen which is def overdosing those plants to the max
 
BeastGrow

BeastGrow

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@Cannabil leaf color is highly dependent on strain too you know. there arent any canoeing leaves so its hard to believe that a minor nitrogen would decrease my yield by nearly 70% like you claim.

and where are you amazing plants?... i don't take advice unless i have a lot of respect for you.
 
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Cannabil

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BeastGrow said:
@Cannabil leaf color is highly dependent on strain too you know. there arent any canoeing leaves so its hard to believe that a minor nitrogen would decrease my yield by nearly 70% like you claim.

and where are you amazing plants?... i don't take advice unless i have a lot of respect for you.
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Thats cool I said you didnt have to believe or listen to me its all good. You can find pictures I post looking through my postings.

Leaf color is directly proportionate to healthy plants which are photosynthesizing with proper absorption of nutrients and water in correct ratio. I have never heard of a strain producing "dark leaves". Red petioles is a strain characteristics which can also be a nutrient problem. But leaf color is something I have never heard of being strain dependent.

Not here to start anything just checking out the pictures and was wondering why they were so dark. If you noticed I was correct when I assumed they were N toxicity and being over fed nitrogen (since you are using 6 diff types in mix, amended and liquid). I was just trying to help. And yes nitrogen vastly reduces flowering and will kill yields. For 48 days those buds look very small thats all I was trying to say is that if cut all that N out they would be much larger.

I was just saying they are way to dark. You never want your plants to look like that, a nice medium shade of green like grass outside is what they should look like entire growth veg and bloom.

These are just couple sours im running now and some fruity chronic juice at day 35-37 some are 2 days ahead.

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Doing the Hail Mary.
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Cannabil

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As I said Im not try to offend you or upset you at all. Just was wondering why they were so dark because they look over fed to me. Was simply trying to help but its all good my friend. Grow on
 
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Cannabil

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Not all plants will "canoe" or "taco" when they are over fed. Some just get extremely dark blue hues. Some tips burn. Some curl under or over. Some will crinkle and turn golden brown. It depends what kind of nutrient burn or excess they are experiencing.

Canoeing leaves can also be caused by mag def, heat stress, plant moisture stress etc.. Canoe leaves isnt a tell tale sign or indicator of 1 specific problem. It can mimic a multitued of issues. You might just supply them with nitrogen to the point where all they do is turn very dark and blueish hues with burnt little tips. But if you keep going something worse will eventually happen. You just may not have reached that point you know. It depends what the plant is uptaking and using etc..

But I hear yah. If you think youre good to go no worries. No harm no foul not trying cause a fight at all. Its all good man. Take care
 
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