Why subcool left RIU?

Gbuddy

Gbuddy

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Mr.Head said:
There's people that have found good gear from his packs there are also people that have had entire rooms pollinated and when they email him he doesn't respond when there are known issues with his gear.
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Thats the thing with most breeders out there.

As soon as one grower reports in a public forum or more that hed found someting fire of a breeder the salesrate for this strain will go up.

Everybody in thus room could pollinate a bunch of female clones. And it not even would care if the male is superdooper just from a strain where the females were good too. He could make a lot of seeds.

Its from here simple math. If the starting material was good enough not even premium.
imagine the guy sends 10 seeds to 20 people. The 200 seeds will at least give 20 good - 3/4 good plants but maybe one is fire and this one will be reported.
now lots of people want his seeds and he sends out 5000 more seeds.
you see how the amount of fire swells in numbers/reports.
thats the only reason why lots of breeders have great reputation because they send out a assload of seeds. And the man in my example is just a bum pollinated a few good female clones in his backyard.

But selling lots of seeds has also to do a lot with marketing.
the better your marketing the more seeds you sell - the more seeds you sell the more good reports on your gear

But contrary to that goes

The more seed you sell and the more strains you offer - the more money you make - the more seeds you produce the more your quality goes down becsuse its all about selling $ $ $ now

and because of te legal situation you can not realy reinvest the money into your project to get bigger and bigger because the legal situation got you on strokehold and people are greedy for the dollar and will even send out more untested unstable stuff because they dont want run out of seeds and people buying it because of great marketing

That is what realy sucks and the seedgame is just like roulette.

Breeders I realy would give some big rep I have still to see.

If I buy an Ibl for example I want my plants look like clone and not much variety. Therefor I would give you reputation. But go buy skunk 1 from sensi and you will end up 10 phenos in 10 seeds for example but its said most stable ibl wtf ?

I bought shit from the most reputable breeders out there of all kind foor big money
and funny enough in my first decade of growing my best two plants came from a cheapass nirvana purchase it was a K2 and a hindukush girl costs me not more then 50 bucks.
I have spend thousands to find anything compareable to this two plants selected from 20.
I exchanged clones with a friend and he ended up growing my cheapo ass gear. And he bought beans like m&m

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I know nirvana has shitty reports a lot but there you can see tgey send out a fucking lot of seeds there is a lot of shit sent too but a few beans will be fire. I dont hope to srart a new hype here. I had just good luck with that 2 plants the rest of the plants were plain bs so no reason to run and buy a sack full of nirvana seeds.
just for the report
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Gbuddy

Gbuddy

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gulfcoastgrower said:
It has alot to do with luck,never no what your gunna get you can have the best cut if you suck the smoke will suck
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So right.....
but even if it tastes and smells like dogshit some people will love to smoke it when they can get high like a kite from it (see some 70's skunks)
and pollinating drug strain females with drugstrain males will give you more drugstrain. Some will be shit some mediocre but some will be fire
 
gulfcoastgrower

gulfcoastgrower

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Ya i had got some mexi brick called it the brown bomer looked like shit smelled like shit got narcotic smack to tha face super strong guess thats not judging a book by its cover
 
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boneheadbob

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I was here and sub was arrogant and foul tempered. He had no business doing any PR work. But he kept at it for a long time untill he lost it for good one day. I suspect it had something to do with that horrible, unwatchable utubes he started doing, The sub show proved how low some will stoop to be rich and famous.
That said I grew some vortex that was KILLER.
 
Swiller

Swiller

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All you have to do is read many of the hateful, divisive, ungrateful posts from many, and few of the older members still post, can you blame them? I still use subs soil, but Vic was the first one I followed. Peace to all my cannabis brethren.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Well gee, a whole page of smack talk and I learned nothing about the man or his strains. I ran Dairy Queen for awhile. It was tasty and popular, but it wouldn't grow in my trellises. Now I'm running a very nice Jillybean pheno I got from @homebrew420 and it's everything you'd ever want from the strain.

I don't pretend to know all about the games, the strains, the names or the politics. I'm just here to grow some memorable herbs.
 
Vnsmkr

Vnsmkr

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ttystikk said:
Well gee, a whole page of smack talk and I learned nothing about the man or his strains. I ran Dairy Queen for awhile. It was tasty and popular, but it wouldn't grow in my trellises. Now I'm running a very nice Jillybean pheno I got from @homebrew420 and it's everything you'd ever want from the strain.

I don't pretend to know all about the games, the strains, the names or the politics. I'm just here to grow some memorable herbs.
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I sent a mail to TGA and got an answer from Sub about whaT he thought I should run here. He gave me his answer and he was spot on, plain and simple, no bullshit. Have had some nice flavors and some nice giggling highs from their stuff
 
abe supercro

abe supercro

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ttystikk said:
Well gee, a whole page of smack talk and I learned nothing about the man or his strains. I ran Dairy Queen for awhile. It was tasty and popular, but it wouldn't grow in my trellises. Now I'm running a very nice Jillybean pheno I got from @homebrew420 and it's everything you'd ever want from the strain.

I don't pretend to know all about the games, the strains, the names or the politics. I'm just here to grow some memorable herbs.
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That jilly bean yields like a mofo. Mine smells like oranges
 
Dr.Pecker

Dr.Pecker

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abe supercro said:
they ran him off ay..? I don't think so; He put his time in and he moved. Would you spend much time online if u lived among California mountains w your family?


That guy is The Weed Nerd and has already made a significant contribution to the canna community, by teaching growing online, the WN show and perhaps some nonprofit stuff today. So what if he has a slight cough.. I'm not gonna give anyone grief over smokin bongs. btw, lovin the digital volcano i won in the derpaville valley raffle!

So Dr. Pecker, funny thing, think sub ended up concluding a troll is only someone who doesn't agree with someone else. It's all banter in the end. the guy left because he has a life, he's buseylol and had to prioritize.
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I could disagree with someone and it shouldn't be a big deal. Trolls dig or remember everything. They continue to badger night and day. I can be civil, I can be a troll and stir shit up. Disagreeing with someone doesn't make you a troll it makes you a democracy. I watch the weed nerd. I have seen his comments on video, I'm sure he moved on. I have nothing bad to say about him and have even defended him. I think what he does is bad ass and hold no I'll will. Infact I have ordered his strains in the past. I grew jack the ripper (Fookin awesome btw) Pandora's box, agent orange and jillybean. I'm sure I've grown more but names are escaping me atm I have orange jilly fems ready and was planning on planting them. Whats up? Do I hate his gear and not plan on growing the seeds I was planning on growing? Please abe supercro tell me the future, I need all the help I can get.
 
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